Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

White Privilege said:
You are right. We need to respond across the border openly at some big military target. There is no way around this. They killed Pakistanis, there can only be revenge.
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Thanks Brother. They have attacked us across international borders and now Pakistan has to return the favor just like how Israel did to Iran. No ifs and buts
 
pakistanitarzan said:
@RescueRanger Can you please start banning all political posts and members that are making political insults? Im getting tired of hearing patwari, imrando and these kinda of rants. Those Pakistanis need to be ashamed that aren't supporting Pak army right now and bringing out the recent past.
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"First of all, you’re the one who should be warned or banned for inciting arguments. Pakistan is currently fighting for its survival, and this is not the time for political point-scoring. You can’t just jump in to like or dislike comments based on personal bias. People are expressing genuine concern for the country and its citizens — stop twisting that into political insults. This isn’t about parties, it’s about Pakistan. If you cannot take it, go back home and sleep
 
PakistanLVR said:
He's a liberal sh*tbag but you're a dumbas* too for sucking that Persian C word and sh*tting on the Chinese tech for years on the Persian forum. GTFO
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You show us proof if Chinese tech works, and I'll happily STFU no?

Saboot dikha bhai, or else you STFU no?
 
Cookie Monster said:
A lot of this is already known(and I hope war gamed)...
...the issue isn't making the concerted effort in making a military push...
...the issue is what comes next after you have done so.
Even if everything goes according to plan in those areas and gains are made on land while PAF is able to either keep IAF in check or establish air superiority...
...what happens when India opens additional fronts all across Pakistan's border with India? Would Pakistan be able to carry on a conventional war? With most countries that provide war materials sanctioning Pakistan...how long would spares last? How soon would Pakistan be able to replenish losses? How long would the oil supply last? How long would Pakistan be able to keep up this conventional war with its fragile economy? And even if in the face of all of this...Pakistan somehow is able to keep a numerically and economically superior foe at bay on IB and win in Kashmir...
...what happens when Indian nukes come into play?
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I have been advocating a combination of 1948 with 1965 to take back IoK. Difficult, yes. Impossible, No. I think the circumstances in Kashmir are much changed now.
I don't think India has that kind of emotional bonds with the Muslim part of Iok that Pakistan has and maybe Pakistan wouldn't mind parting with the Hindu majority part of IoK. I think something like that was being discussed in the so-called Chenab Formula to divide Kashmir until Musharraf and Manmohan almost came to an agreement over something else. Plus I also think India's position in Iok has never been this weak: A local population so thoroughly alienated, China sitting on top of Ladakh, and Pakistan is militarily much stronger then ever before; Pakistan's own defense industry is stronger than ever before plus China is there with full support minus actual Chinese troops. Then there is the Sikh factor in Indian Punjab. And I don't think in today's world, India can count on any major external support.
So the combination of favorable conditions is unprecedented. And no nuclear threshold has to be crossed: Pakistan could and should use militias to cross into IoK and use the bulk of the regular Pakistani army in defensive posture along the International Border. It will be a bloodbath but I think doable. But if no solution is found then Pakistan will be dealing with Indian attacks and water blackmail for as long as Modi's politics remains alive in India.
 
Cash gk said:
"First of all, you’re the one who should be warned or banned for inciting arguments. Pakistan is currently fighting for its survival, and this is not the time for political point-scoring. You can’t just jump in to like or dislike comments based on personal bias. People are expressing genuine concern for the country and its citizens — stop twisting that into political insults. This isn’t about parties, it’s about Pakistan. If you cannot take it, go back home and sleep
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Look at all my previous post and tell me where I have discussed even one political topic on this thread. Im pointing out the obvious what some others are doing. There is a time and place to point out these issues, this is not it where the enemy has bombed the shit out of us. Some people will never learn!
 

Rafale downed for first time: Pakistan shoots down Indian fighter jet​

WED, MAY 07, 2025 - 21:02

Rafale downed for first time: Pakistan shoots down Indian fighter jet
Illustrative photo: Indian Rafale shot down by Pakistan (Getty Images)
AUTHOR: DARYNA VIALKO

Pakistan’s air defense likely shot down an Indian Rafale fighter jet. This is the first time such an aircraft has been lost in combat, CNN reports.

A senior French intelligence official, speaking to CNN on condition of anonymity, confirmed the downing of the Indian Rafale jet.

Earlier, Pakistan claimed to have shot down five Indian fighter jets in retaliation for Indian strikes, including, reportedly, three Rafales. Indian officials have not commented on those claims.

A French source said that the French authorities are investigating whether Pakistan could have shot down more than one Rafale.

CNN noted that photos of the wreckage in Kashmir show markings of the French manufacturer. However, experts say that these markings alone are not enough to conclusively identify the debris as belonging to a Rafale jet.

Rafale fighter jet​

The Rafale is a 10-ton, twin-engine, multirole fighter jet equipped with a 30mm cannon, air-to-air missiles, laser-guided bombs, and cruise missiles.

Prior to the latest escalation with Pakistan, India had 36 Rafale jets in service, purchased from the French company Dassault Aviation.

As reported, India launched a missile strike on Pakistan overnight, describing it as an operation targeting terrorist infrastructure inside Pakistani territory. Pakistan's troops also responded to India with missile strikes.

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I already told you it was one of the finest ACe in recent history it was the finest Ace Pakistan Air Force created in last 100 years. It is going to be teach in wars school
 
Cash gk said:
I already told you it was one of the finest A's in recent history it was the finest Ace Pakistan Air Force created in last 100 years. It is going to be teach in wars school
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But there was no dog fight according to dg ispr? Paf shot at them from our airspace
 
PakistanLVR said:
Is there actual proof of all of this because I am reading is their disinformation campaign in full swing. Its "Pakistan claims xwy" and these assholes here spreading misinformation because they want to be the first with the"breaking news."
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Indians have yet to accept their failed Surgical Strike in 2016 or the failed strike in Balakot in 2019. They are amazingly insular. But, yes, I believe Pakistan did cause major damage across the LOC in last 24-36 hours and caused casualties in IoK, especially in the Poonch sector which had alarmed even Indians in an Indian forum. Unfortunately civilians, including Muslims Kashmiris were killed and that's something very difficult for Pakistan to own.
 
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