Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

SABRE said:
Nah man. Pakistani civilian governments can be financially corrupt to the core and beyond, to the last atom, but they have never been genocidal. Not even the mainstream religious parties that get elected to parliament are like that. This is not the case with India. Anti-India rhetoric is unlikely to get you elected in Pakistan. On the other hand, anti-Pakistan rhetoric is exactly what Indian politicians do to muster votes. The result is this, what we are witnessing now.

When military regimes did injustice we stood up and spoke up. What you are highlighting in your post, you know it today because Pakistanis made big issue of it. Can you honestly speak against your current government openly and loudly, and call spade a spade? chances are you'll be ostracised.

Please support your country under all circumstance. You'll have my full respect, not matter what, no matter what goes down in this fight. But for anyone who supports Modi/BJP gov, rest assured the fire he has ignited in the neighborhood will eventually set Indian houses ablaze also.
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Honestly one of the best posts of the day. Worth repeating these key differences between our nations.

As you said, our crazees remain at the fringes of power, and are not actually that crazee. India's crazees are entirely in control of the whole media-industrial-political-military complex and they really are uncivilised barbarians to the core. Folks compare hindutva with zionism - no way can hindutvas ever think in a rational and calculated manner like zionists can. Israel must be embarrassed at just how stupid their newfound allies actually are.
 
Summary of events:

- Terrorist attack happens in deep inside Indian controlled territory surrounded by Indian military, India doesn’t go after the attackers, doesn’t even try to, just blames Pakistan.
- Unknown group claims responsibility for it multiple times, has no know ties to Pakistan.
- india denies third party probe or providing any information about the attackers.
- india attacks Pakistan with missiles, doesn’t hit anything but civilian targets, kills several kids and women
- loses multiple jets (3 confirmed with images, 5 claimed and likely) and two drones in return
- gets shelled to hell and back by arty, civilians die on both sides due to arty fire
- attacks Pakistan with several dozen drones, most neutralized by Pakistani EW and AAA, don’t even get to track many Pakistani SAMs which was their main goal because Pakistan realized they were there for that and just didn’t engage them with SAMs
- does a fake attack in Jammu, likely just hysterical trigger pulling or justification for earlier or future attacks
- Indian media goes crazy with misinfo


Notice how in all this Pakistan has done absolutely nothing?

Never stop your enemy when he is in the process of making a mistake.
 
Distant_Observer said:
I think jeets have gone hysteric because they have to announce their downed rafaels to the world. :ROFLMAO:

You lost your rafaels over shelling a bunch of mosques and homes? You truly are the joke of this world.
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Cannot equate this. Never forget 31 citizens. Their lives matter more than IAF's entire Rafale squadrons. They hit our 9 cities yesterday and more cities today. So what they have done is actually much more severe. Attacking cities is HUGE.
However, they certainly were not expecting such a bloody nose by PAF early on.

PAF did great job to shoot down 5 jets including Rafales but it was certainly not our response yet. Our response has yet to come.
 
What is update brothers? I was a way to clear my stocks
 
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Pakistan First said:
Indian media looks in utter panic:

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Its hard to detect and hit missiles than drones from surface to air missiles. Pak needs to use missiles than drones to avoid AAD.
 
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And now we are the ones happily browsing X while Indians are the ones sitting in total info blackout. How the tables have turned. nice going Modi !
 
Khansaheeb said:
So Yankees are rubbing it in to pitch F35s?
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Here is the thing. If the Americans do provide F-35s to India, and Pakistani ISI gets hold of technical information from within India, then Pakistan is under "no" obligation to protect that information and it can give it to the likes of the Russians and Chinese. Anything the Americans give has to be with a view that Pakistan can penetrate India to get the intelligence it needs for its security needs. F-35 is basically a compromised platform once it is given to India, even if the Americans sell a 'monkey' variant to try and protect some secrets.
 
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