Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

I applaud this man (re: ambassador to US in recent interview).

Our spokespersons should state clearly and repeat unequivocally that the missile strikes on civilian areas in urban zones of Pakistan, along with loitering munitions deployments in urban areas of Pakistan, and also the diversion of water as an openly stated and glorified weaponisation of resources (which the minister FORGOT to state) were all antecedent events utilised by the Secular Republic of India against the people of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The supposed justification for these acts carried out by India arises from an internal militant attack which has been falsely flagged as an attack determined by the state of Pakistan. No evidence has been presented that state involvement of Pakistan ever existed in the planning, orchestration, or conducting of this attack, and hence the claims are spurious, not viable as justification for cross border strikes by the Indian state of ANY kind, let alone deliberate acts of water/missile/drone terror against our civilians.

India will pay a heavy price for their terrorism against Pakistan regardless of what the rest of the world says or does not say.
 
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Chinese must be sitting and watching in the control room right now:)

 
That is because Pakistan "appears" to be weak and very timid, almost helpless and harmless. Whereas India "appears" to be strong, stern and bold. Their negative attitude towords Pakistam is partially due to that and partially due to Indian PR.

How many Afghans do you find that will express anti-Russian or anti-American statements? On the contrary many Afghans want to live in the USA. Despite the fact that the two states that actually destroyed, killed and raped Afghanistan were the Soviet Russia and the USA.

Pakistan needs to revive its belligerance towards India, the same it had in the 1980s.

The problem is the Pakistani ruling class falsely and incorrectly thinks being "good boys" will make the Zionist ruling classes in the West like them more somehow. This is a much deeper issue.
I agree .. afghans are opportunitic people. They can talk about shit till money or women are involved and once it is then they are a different breed altogether. they have been abused by iran, central asian states and to some extent by Pakistanis... but mainly, we are the reason alot many are even alive and thriving. I came across a report which said people from Afghanistan, Iran and Somalia were identified as atheist the most once they moved to West. this speaks volume itself. anyways.

on india... pmln and ppp are both ruled by not leaders but businessmen. they think from a business sense and are over impressed by west. Both have savings, interests and future tied with West and not Pakistan. we can not expect them to manage interests from pakistan perspective. India, for them will be a bigger economy, a western blue eyed boy, one with whom pakistan can't compete due to reasons mentioned above.

Gen. Ayub Khan, Bhutto, Zia and to some extent imran were all not impressed with white skin. they didn't see gora as superior or someone who knew more or gaeb ka ilm or who were where they wud want to be in future. They could take West and western insistence and mantra towards the western blue eyed boy and piss over it. ganja and billo and family are just too impressed and suppressed. they are the biggest asset lickers and ball lifters out there. In short.. pakistan can't flourish till these ppl are alive or the people like them in their parties are alive. culling them is the least option.
Militarily, we do get some spine here and there in the leadership but they are never promoted to the highest order.... max 1 or 2 star or rarely a 3 star.
 
New Edit just for you guys.

If you're anti-military, move the f#*k on...

This is NOT for your Pro-whatever-Party. And it certainly isn't the time.

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Oh & this is what ISPR released yesterday 🫤 .

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Loved that PC Loved DG ISPR and the PAF office

May god bless Pakistan Armed Forces protect them and give them victory
 
One possible off ramp, that this video made me consider, to this conflict, which the west could force upon India to get Pakistan to back down from responding, could be that India can’t cancel or modify the Indus water treaty at all. This could be a win that might be enough for both sides.

Wajahat didn’t bring this up, this something I’m pondering, that could be a win the Pakistan army could take away that they can show they got a key concession.

Also to make this clear, IMHO, Pakistan needs a “hit” (possibly a major cyber move) inside mainland India to tell them their economy can be brought to a halt if they keep escalating. A move Pakistan can keep doing and keep detailing India’s economy during their next crucial 20 years they need to develop or be stuck poor forever as their demographics shift.

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