Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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I*R*A
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Introspection Pakistan?
A lot went wrong on our side. It did not look like that we had learnt anything from 2019.
We clearly did not have a plan to counter the narrative as soon as the false flag was generated, what we saw was the usual parroted response "Oh we did not do it, give us the proof, we conduct investigation with you, we want talk, we want peace ...." so on and so forth, nothing genuine, nothing challenging, nothing concrete to destroy the false allegations, nothing to counter the hindutva ideology. Incompetent, pathetic, subpar performance.
Post conflict we surely need aggressive young blood, who are eloquent, well versed in geopolitics, know how to speak how to build narratives how to hijack narratives. What we saw were old senile dimwit politicians getting tricked at the hands of Yalda Hakims of the world. Let the civil servants, think tanks, bureaucrats and diplomats handle that. Why the dimwit politicians have to go represent Pakistan on international media?
There is lot more that can be said but then again I haven't seen wreckage of a black Toyota pickup, which makes me believe those are still intact and can come into action anytime. God save most Pakistanis from being court martialed. Pakistan Zindabad Insha ALLAH.
A lot went wrong on our side. It did not look like that we had learnt anything from 2019.
We clearly did not have a plan to counter the narrative as soon as the false flag was generated, what we saw was the usual parroted response "Oh we did not do it, give us the proof, we conduct investigation with you, we want talk, we want peace ...." so on and so forth, nothing genuine, nothing challenging, nothing concrete to destroy the false allegations, nothing to counter the hindutva ideology. Incompetent, pathetic, subpar performance.
Post conflict we surely need aggressive young blood, who are eloquent, well versed in geopolitics, know how to speak how to build narratives how to hijack narratives. What we saw were old senile dimwit politicians getting tricked at the hands of Yalda Hakims of the world. Let the civil servants, think tanks, bureaucrats and diplomats handle that. Why the dimwit politicians have to go represent Pakistan on international media?
There is lot more that can be said but then again I haven't seen wreckage of a black Toyota pickup, which makes me believe those are still intact and can come into action anytime. God save most Pakistanis from being court martialed. Pakistan Zindabad Insha ALLAH.
Taimoor
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Absolutely, isrealis are already restocking them.
We need to go into preemptive mode. While getting all other Chinese goodies pronto.
krash
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Bhai nahin hogi all out war, samajh kyun nahin aati yeh baat logon ko. With cowards like Modi there will never be one. Modi was only emboldened because we failed to act decisively during the Brahmos missile incident and took this shit load from Indians right to our face. We 'lost' our nuclear deterrence when we did not launch in face of a nuclear capable missile headed right for us. Now Indians know they can keep sending drones the whole year and we will just keep defending while they can pull back their critical assets deeper into India, we can't. We will keep on our toes and waste our entire budget, Indians win,
One good thing thing that no doubt came out of this, is that Indians have lost their perceived edge in the form of S-400 and Rafale. Huge multi billion dollar investment down the drain, as they will need to come up with better solutions for next time.
The other opposite of cowardly is stupid. It was the same guy, and state, stupid enough to bomb 6 of our mosques a few days before. He was emboldened before then.
Now India knows, once again, that it is not yet big enough to send anything at all. Thankfully, we had people sane enough to consider and prepare for all possibilities, as best they could, before we went in.
Because they don't care for you and they care more for the other. Won't change until we change our state.
You should not demand or expect them to be fair. Geopolitics, which the media is undoubtedly a tool of, caters to interests, not fairness or justice. You should be prepared to duke it out there too.
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Raider 21
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Read what I wrote in my post again a bit more clearly than getting a little too emotional about it.
hydrabadi_arab
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hydrabadi_arab
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Dont worry, when India actually build something to divert/dam our water. Couple of Fatah will do the job as India learned recently.
Developereo
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All I want to know is, if we had 10 Rafales locked on on the first day, who gave the order not to shoot them all down?
hydrabadi_arab
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Pakistan isnt interested in tit for tat when it comes to firing missiles. India is 7 times bigger in population. So good luck to India if they think nuclear missiles can be stopped.
RafaleSlayer
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I was waiting so eagerly for IN to do something to help us make a big beautiful new artificial reef in the Arabia sea with a couple of thousand vegetarian protein dummy's in it for the fish to feed on
I*R*A
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Who knows if we did or did not.
Restraint is when you restrain the hidutva ideology from creating false flags and blaming them on you. They should not have had that much time and leisure, they should have been worried "hum agar aisa kiay tou punjab may kya ho ga, north east my kya ho ga nagaland may kya ho ga...".
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