Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Waz said:
From their side they will not admit to anything, it's how they operate especially with the Hindutva brigade. If they can dismiss live footage of their crashed jets, three which are very clear they are capable of denying everything and anything.
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Sure, but this is not about convincing them, as you say, the hardcore will never be convinced.

Average non crazy Indian, world opinion and our own public is the battle ground here
 
hydrabadi_arab said:
Yes pilots can eject, big deal. Hitting empty buildings and killing civilians is big win which included women and children passing nearby.

Pakistan will be prepared next time false flag happen.
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Yes ...but another story in circle....more thn 5....
 
Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
According to Sami Abraham, the PAF pilots went inside Bharat with a Fidayin mission. They promised not to come back without hitting the targets. And, if they had failed they would have crashed the jets themselves without getting caught. Subhan'Allah....

As for the Air Chief, his stand was dead clear: no point in having a/c damaged at the bases. Get into the fight and take out as many bastards as possible....

*I personally feel blessed and honored to have met former PAF officers from family and friends. The father-in-law of a niece of mine was an F-16 pilot.


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Not quite....it wasn't that dramatic.....missions like this are always flown with the intention of returning home.
 
Areesh said:
Also Pakistan performed reasonably well

Yes there are issues that Pakistan needs to work on but overall it fought well

It wasn't a one sided affair like 2019 and in the end it was India that ran to USA for ceasefire
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According to U.S. officials, it was serious intelligence that triggered urgent de-escalation efforts. Add to that reports suggesting India was genuinely rattled by Pakistan’s response.

Let’s see how it all unfolds... "if" they choose to reveal what was really happening behind the scenes...

As for Pakistan’s performance.... that’s not even up for debate. The world’s already talking about PAF taking down Rafales. That alone speaks volumes. Some things don’t need defending, they just echo on their own...
 
i just don’t understand what pain in the a** they come up with such things.

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Ali Mobin Memon said:
Difference between we pakistanis and indians is that we never said we were invincible we only said we are united when our home is attack.
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I am absolutely grateful to the armed forces in the way they responded, alhamdolillah. We never boasted and yet we hit back harder. I have had the fortune/misfortune of seeing Pakistan's conflicts since the 70s with India. Never in my mind did I anticipate that in a war Pakistan would not be taking damage. However, it is Pakistan's aggressive actions in the face of such interdiction that one has to laud the armed forces. They did what they said they were going to do and NOBODY can take that away from us Pakistanis Alhamdolillah.

One should also take note that no amount of strikes on static air fields etc. can take away from the absolute air dominance in the air. Indians in the air were operating from the absolute envelope of their stand-off weapons (Scalp etc.) to get these strikes in and each time they carried out such strikes, it was with an intense concern about eating another PL-15/AMRAAM in the process from the Pakistani kill chain. However, they were able to get these strikes in and kudos to them but they ate more than they delivered.

Pakistan could launch so much more heat because we did not employ the entire F-16 fleet in the ground interdiction role. The ability of the F-16s to hit ground targets is unmatched in the entire sub-continent except perhaps by the Rafale (MKI can carry payload but it has been found far too vulnerable to come close to Pakistani air space). PAF probably "expended" less than ~10% of its offensive air power in this conflict. Yes, on the defensive we had numbers in the air but they were not used to bring impact on the ground.

Of note, the precision SSMs on both sides proved the efficacy of these systems. While the limelight on our side is on the PAF, we mustn't forget the impact that the Fateh precision attack SSMs had in this conflict. Where used, they had devastating impact. One should also realize that any questions, over these years with all the talk about the weapons tests by Pakistan, were laid to rest as Pakistan used these systems in anger to good effect.

Very many lessons for our armed forces to internalize but I have confidence because we will evolve our defensive posture as we always have. The recent conflict proves that our armed forces are absolutely professional, staying current, testing and training hard for future conflicts. And the future integration of offensive and defensive capabilities will be even more cohesive (with full support from our friends). There should be absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind about this including that bastard Modi and his coterie. His options are very limited in the future despite all the hubris and tough talk as seen in that clown Jaishankar's tweet.
 
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