Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Now is the time to get extremely serious for Pak. They'll come indeed very hard with missiles, drones etc. The Pak folks need to immediately do Astagfirullah and regroup....

War go through cycles of battles won and lost....

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Victory Flypast - Coming Soon

So it was the Sqn No. 9 (Griffins) that flew over Islamabad Monument where PAK Leadership was/is present.

 

[r3alist]

First HD chinese representation of May 7 ...air battle...very classic

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The biggest soft power and reputational win here is not with the west, far too much emphasis is given to Western opinion when frankly they will be looking over the past events with a view to undermine the air forces capability, therefore it's not worth gloating too much.



In reality the biggest reputational game has come from the East, where the soft power gain of Pakistan's reputation in China will have received an enormous boost, when you hear people calling this China's military deep seek moment and it was delivered by Pakistan, that is actually a huge soft power win for Pakistan in the east. Furthermore, other allies such as Turkey and Azerbaijan will be further emboldened or you could say further encouraged by Pakistan's performance with a much bigger power and this confidence and feel good factor will reverberate for into various regions.


Look East.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

From tea is fantastic to analysis is fantastic. And, all are from the Romeo forces sans any Juliettes for no Juliette in her right senses would fall for such Romeos! Even Indira Gandhi fell for a Parsi, no Hindutva....

The best part is the most Hibdutva would now believe they are the Super Powers! So, no need to learn anything new or unlearn what they've already learnt.....

not even showed 10%? In fact India used all their high tech. There is nothing left to show. Unless India have developed Death Star in outer space.

French Rafales 3 shot down, IAF was grounded
Russian S400 radar taken out, operator killed
Russian brahmos 2/3 were intercepted

Only surprising thing India did this time was use of nuclear capable brahmos cruise missile. Now that will no longer be a surprise next time.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

This video by Ate shows some significant damage from their Brahmos strikes, and both this video and the one by Blinkov suggest it was a close call...more about mistakes by the indians rather than anything else that led to them losing so many aircraft. There is a reason why the expressions on the Pakistani pilots are quite solemn, it might not be such a cakewalk next time...the PAF and military can't be complacent, serious lessons need to be learnt and measures taken to rectify mistakes and gaps if Pakistan intends to keep its edge.

India choreographed it, invested and played the scenario as they wished. It was supposed to be the victory denied in 2019. Turned out worse!
Pakistan did not flex enough and a bit complacent. India was denied air superiority and resorted drone and surface to surface hits. I know J10s are being championed however it is in essence vindication of Pakistani approach/philosophy that materialized JF17.

This isn't over... the spite and hubris maintains their position as this round is on going and isn't over till they say it's over. So, complacency is the last thing Pakistan needs.

Key takeaway is that Pakistanil needs a more robust A2/AD command with more surface to surface and surface to air platforms to neutralise threats deep inside enemy territory before they materialize and force them to push back creating a buffer inside Indian territory providing a greater threat perception and increased response time.

 

[r3alist]

not even showed 10%? In fact India used all their high tech. There is nothing left to show. Unless India have developed Death Star in outer space.

French Rafales 3 shot down, IAF was grounded
Russian S400 radar taken out, operator killed
Russian brahmos 2/3 were intercepted

Only surprising thing India did this time was use of nuclear capable brahmos cruise missile. Now that will no longer be a surprise next time.

I have not yet looked at the evidence of the s400 so forgive me if I am out of date, however if the s400 were indeed taken out in some way than that would be even more significant than the jet being taken down, maybe

 

[Taimoor]

Perhaps they will counter our surveillance next time so we cannot listen in to their chatter - that gave us a huge edge in A2A combat. Somehow we need to maintain that.

In 2019, we were listening to their chatter, and they upgraded their comms with Israeli support I understand. Come 2025, we are still listening. They better contact the habitants of Zeta Reticuli for help, coz god know, what kinda black magic we are using.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

not even showed 10%? In fact India used all their high tech. There is nothing left to show. Unless India have developed Death Star in outer space.

French Rafales 3 shot down, IAF was grounded
Russian S400 radar taken out, operator killed
Russian brahmos 2/3 were intercepted

Only surprising thing India did this time was use of nuclear capable brahmos cruise missile. Now that will no longer be a surprise next time.

only if we really cared, we are busy in celebrating, as if IWT was working ok

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I agree, where an enemy is attacking you with 100+ jets, you'd deter them with as many kills as possible. Especially given that we had the element of surprise this time. We could have partially crippled their Airforce as a huge deterrent.

Saving 5 planes out of 10 locked ones, when 100+ of them are attacking you, seems a very odd choice. It really infuriated me too, but then again, thinking about it; it was the decision of the military. They probably know things that I do not know about.

One good thing is they have to come back with their "bad apples"! Yes, it's the time for the PAF to get into full throttle. Once they violate the ceasefire mediated by President Trump, all games would be fair. Insha'Allah their end time is nearby, but a Kurban needs to be made. No Kurban, no Dava....

Iblis is extremely cunning and smart, but he lacks Sabr and Shukr. And, he takes decision in haste, anger and jealousy. And, Hindutva is the first degree worshipper of Iblis....

 

[r3alist]

India choreographed it, invested and played the scenario as they wished. It was supposed to be the victory denied in 2019. Turned out worse!
Pakistan did not flex enough and a bit complacent. India was denied air superiority and resorted drone and surface to surface hits. I know J10s are being championed however it is in essence vindication of Pakistani approach/philosophy that materialized JF17.

This isn't over... the spite and hubris maintains their position as this round is on going and isn't over till they say it's over. So, complacency is the last thing Pakistan needs.

Key takeaway is that Pakistanil needs a more robust A2/AD command with more surface to surface and surface to air platforms to neutralise threats deep inside enemy territory before they materialize and force them to push back creating a buffer inside Indian territory providing a greater threat perception and increased response time.

As well as, tooling up, with as much as you can get from your allies.

The one area of doubt that might even cause the hawks to think twice is, to what extent is it permissible for Pakistan to actually consider any form of attack on the more major cities, and therefore disrupt global commerce to some extent.

Either absent of that, some fairly solid targets would need to be identified which are high value, but do not concern global trade and finance too much.

I suspect here, that the Indian thinking will be that given that they have breached the psychological barrier of causing problems in major cities they can then continue to disrupt the heartland of commerce and the population..... In some way therefore, they will achieve a disproportion effect on their missile attacks and we'll seek to economically harm Pakistan as much as possible.

 

[Distant_Observer]

only if we really cared, we are busy in celebrating, as if IWT was working ok

Don't worry about the water. We will take IOK soon.

There is a reason why India acted in desperation.

 

[NA71]

Victory songs , fly past, dhoom dharaka.....thura hosh karo ...Pakistan .
Enemey is getting ready with new plan...and they are calling for the next round....

Give them some strong signal....announce a Thermonuclear test ( only announce)....or test few hypersonic missile...

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I have not yet looked at the evidence of the s400 so forgive me if I am out of date, however if the s400 were indeed taken out in some way than that would be even more significant than the jet being taken down, maybe

ASELSAN KORAL has already shown its prowess over the Russian operated S-400 in Syria by jamming them to such an extent during an active ops against Asad's forces that the Russians were compelled to bring in their top secret humongous EW/EA a/c all the way from Moscow....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

As well as, tooling up, with as much as you can get from your allies.

The one area of doubt that might even cause the hawks to think twice is, to what extent is it permissible for Pakistan to actually consider any form of attack on the more major cities, and therefore disrupt global commerce to some extent.

Either absent of that, some fairly solid targets would need to be identified which are high value, but do not concern global trade and finance too much.

I suspect here, that the Indian thinking will be that given that they have breached the psychological barrier of causing problems in major cities they can then continue to disrupt the heartland of commerce and the population..... In some way therefore, they will achieve a disproportion effect on their missile attacks and we'll seek to economically harm Pakistan as much as possible.

Now is the time for the Pak cyber warriors to take down their banking and commercial sectors. It'll turn them into zombies. Moreover, time to test Fatah-3 to hit Bombay....

 

[Cash gk]

Well explained

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