Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Maarkhoor]

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[StormBreaker]

Carriers for the PN are outside the reality of Pakistan's budget. I think investing in a potent submarine fleet of around 10 and multiple aircraft squadrons/fast attack boats that can fire anti-ship missile/drones/torpedoes may be the best deterrence for Pakistan.

Conventional naval stuff is too expensive, there is also a need for Pakistan to think creatively and imaginativly about how it can keep the sea lanes open and defend the coastline.

I personally believe after the setback of the last war, India will go back to using its most successful weapon, terrorism, against Pakistan and mount their next adventure at sea, where Pakistan is weakest. The PN is just a token force.

Expensive, unaffordable/maintainable indeed.

But the requirement of a Naval air arm persists. Strike Aircrafts (J-16+J-16D/J-20) are what we need at the sea, ones that could go in as quick as possible, Has enough fuel capacity to stay in air for longer times and could carry good amount of weaponry.

Thunders don’t provide that. They are at best, Light weight BVR fighters with mid range strike capacity. We don’t have good numbers on J-10 either.

 

[StormBreaker]

And this unfortunately - was my fear of the unexpected outcome. Instead of “Pakistanis were victorious” or “Here is how the country came out on top”

It is “here is what Shahbaz did” or “Here is what XYZ did”.

“This is where you will lose the narrative war from 6 aircraft downed and S-400 destroyed while fighting an adversary 5 times your size” to
Pakistan was beaten badly with many strategic airbases and nuclear facilities damaged while giving fresh support to the freedom fighters in Balochistan and Pashtunistan.

Everyone else will be twiddling their thumbs while these people bungle it all up in their self fellatio

As we discussed earlier in the thread, the masses posses brain the size of peanut, 50+ aged people yet the IQ of a baby or worse, a neanderthal. They soak up such content, cherish these theatrical acts and stay as the slaves they have been as were their fathers and forefathers.

 

[StormBreaker]

Lately, I have been wondering about how the western media has been after India, more than my expectations and it occurred to me that such articles would indeed pressurize India to actually go shopping for more western weapons.

These articles puts India rightfully at the bottom but its actually a tactic to get India to introspect and go for new western goodies.

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[HRK]

Sushant Singh is a credible Indian analyst. Is he being sarcastic here about Modi's 'diplomatic' win?

Indian now firmly believe Turkey and Azerbaijan as their enemy and almost all Indian are putting negative stuff about these countries online.

Now related to this tweet Indian Media as a whole is making it as something bad for India as if Turkey would do this or that and this new AMRAM deal will obviously strengthen the defense of Turkey, therefore they were expecting the Indian government to do something to isolate & punish the Turkey by use of diplomacy.

 

[tower9]

Well the motive is for sure a constant economic strangulation, and currently they are insisting on Pakistan going back on the grey list

However, Pakistan can seemingly do the most damage to itself on the economic front, India is just twisting the knife

I feel that the reality is that the U.s condescended to India's shrill Pakistan blame for everything narrative because they wanted India to be a more effective front against China, however now that it's apparent that India will not be that America is not willing to indulge the anti pakistan narrative as much, after all why should it if that means that Pakistan goes so deep with China that America no longer has any utility to Pakistan.

Therefore, I really don't understand and infact respect Indian strategic thinking, where they actually think that they can effectively trick and con America into supporting India to be a serious bigger power, without giving anything proportionate back.

I think it’s pretty clear now that Modi has no strategic thinking. And all of his rationale are based on a delusional perception of the world and that is why he constantly fails when his “strategies” run into reality like a brick wall.

 

[PakFactor]

Why not?

Their acceptance level among people were zero from day one and going down with every passing day and suddenly something happened so spectacular which not only gave them a breathing space but a chance to redeem their standing among public despite all the violation of HR, law and constitution knowing this Jazbaati awam will like always be with them on the same bandwagon and this is unfortunately what's happening. India has moved on with nullifying IWT and it is planning next phase as has been said without any doubt by Indian defence minister.

What @Oscar is saying is, “Think globally, act locally.” you want local communities around the world to understand your point of view to build your narrative (which is your brand); once you have built that eco-system, then you expand it and create a network of reliable partners (brand loyalty). He's right. All we're doing is placating the public but losing the global public. For example, in different parts of the world, companies build different PR models to target local audiences, such as Coke, but in the end, irrespective of local PR, they can all relate to Coke and its message.

I'm sorry, I can only explain it in a business environment.

 

[Indos]

Carriers for the PN are outside the reality of Pakistan's budget. I think investing in a potent submarine fleet of around 10 and multiple aircraft squadrons/fast attack boats that can fire anti-ship missile/drones/torpedoes may be the best deterrence for Pakistan.

Conventional naval stuff is too expensive, there is also a need for Pakistan to think creatively and imaginativly about how it can keep the sea lanes open and defend the coastline.

I personally believe after the setback of the last war, India will go back to using its most successful weapon, terrorism, against Pakistan and mount their next adventure at sea, where Pakistan is weakest. The PN is just a token force.

This is why Indonesia build this fast attack craft pretty many. It can even operate in South China Sea (Natuna sea)

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[Cash gk]

They were no match even if they bring 500 jets vs 70

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[HRK]

CHRISTINE FAIR Love Story.

Alright boys, its about time that i spill the beans as to what happened to Christine Fair and why she hates Pakistan.

Its because of one Pakistani man, who she fell in love with, and was with him for 8 years...
she was so madly deeply in love with him that she learned Urdu, even moved around Islo, but our lady killer army guy, who has since retired as a Colonel did not take her to be his bride. Kept her as a side check and keep on giving her hope that one day.

i dont blame the army guy because he was groomed not to trust anyone, he used to always wonder whether she is an asset for some foreign agency.
He was always told that don't do this, she loves u so much and she even changed the way she dresses, she has learned urdu, she is close to the culture than any desi girl, but our lady killer army friend did not listen to us.
As a result, she went into hysteria on breakup, got messed up to a point of no return. now its collective punishment for all of Pakistan.
In Know the World bank head of Pakistan a good friend of mine and his wife, who is still in Touch with her, and my friends wife two days ago at an event in Washington DC, told us how she misses Pakistan and misses him, she has not moved on friends, she is scorned and hurt to a point that she loses the optics of fair judgement. I feel bad for her, you should feel bad for her too..... i always say never play with a womans heart, she will love u like crazy that she will do anything for you but when you hurt her, she will be the most destructive force which no one is able to handle.

Cant reveal names and Identities but thought i share what happened to Christine Fair..

Ok I thought (as per previous rumors) an Intelligence guy was attached to her during her time in Pakistan to keep her under watch but she fall in some deeply connection with him.

As per previous version that guy was playing by the book and keep her hooked but after sometime when she was not useful enough she was dropped off and story ended in her enraged state.

That was the end of one-sided unstable emotional story

(NOTE: I don't know that was true but this version was repeated many times in past by many people.)

 

[Cash gk]

What @Oscar is saying is, “Think globally, act locally.” you want local communities around the world to understand your point of view to build your narrative (which is your brand); once you have built that eco-system, then you expand it and create a network of reliable partners (brand loyalty). He's right. All we're doing is placating the public but losing the global public. For example, in different parts of the world, companies build different PR models to target local audiences, such as Coke, but in the end, irrespective of local PR, they can all relate to Coke and its message.

I'm sorry, I can only explain it in a business environment.

So, you know what 55 percent of 250 million is?

137.5 million — that’s Pakistan’s youth.

Now understand this: Pakistan is the 4th largest English-speaking nation in the world. That means 137.5 million young people, most of them educated, connected, and vocal — especially on social media.


In times of war, nations depend on their youth. In modern warfare, narrative is just as powerful as missiles. These young voices can shape global perception, defend the truth, and expose propaganda.

But instead of harnessing this power, two decisions betrayed them:

1. Trying civilians in military courts.
2. Sentencing Imran Khan to 14 years.

You want to know who helped the enemy? Find out who was behind these decisions. Because they didn’t just go after a leader — they tried to silence an entire generation that could have built Pakistan’s image worldwide.

And make no mistake — 137.5 million young, mostly English-speaking Pakistanis can build or break any global narrative.

 

[Cash gk]

These two events, which I mentioned above, were a turning point. This is where Pakistanis stopped in their tracks their focus and momentum were diverted.And that shift only helped the enemy.

 

[StormBreaker]

When the snakes fight amongst themselves - absolute theater

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[RafaleSlayer]

Holy shit it's real

She is rubbing salt on Indian wounds

 

[Gripen9]

So I have seen multiple gora so called “defense” analysts now pushing this theory on X that IAF had launched a number of Banshee/Firebee type target drones along with the strike package during the initial strike. That is what PAF shot down.
Delulu nation.

Doing their hardest to recalibrate/ regain the lost narrative. Nobody talks about wreckage strewn throughout Occupied Kashmir or an M88 engine lying in a field in Bhatinda

This is one example but multiples have popped up on my timeline so this is a coordinated effort from.the *****.

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