Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Cash gk]

Era of new slavery,

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[Dalit]

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Another U-turn by Hindustan. A master of U-turns. Bad Taliban becomes good Taliban. Good Rafale becomes mediocre Rafale. Tough stance on tariffs takes a backseat for no tariffs. A hypocrite with zero shame.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The coconut fluids on the Rafale haven’t dried yet and the Indians are already discussing a new jet. Wasn’t India supposed to take new deliveries of the Rafale fighter?

They believe in Karma and reincarnation...

An example: Rafale was born as a Brahmin -> commit sins -> die -> reborn as a Dalit (e.g., Mig-21)....

Now, search for a new Brahmin....

 

[Meengla]

honestly if i had the power i would thread ban you for simply being not smart enough to participate in this thread, or forum.....

I thought @Baibers_1260 was being facetious/sarcastic in that post, no??!!

 

[ACE OF HEARTS]

Having air superiority and maintaining it, is one thing.

But taking advantage of the air superiority and helping ground forces ( A to G ) to gain ground across the disputed territories / LOC is another.

Battlefield / battleground gains define the final victory of a war. Loss of high tech toys is only a small part of it.

Russia has lost 20 000 Pieces of equipment on the ground, and maintains air superiority over Ukraine.

However, it is the small by small battles fought on land, amd hence, minute victories everyday, that is shaping the outcome of the war. Hence, the position of strength, of Russia, on the negotiation table, which of course excludes the land that is already conquered.

Hope, air - ground combination gets some meaningful victories on the ground, quick and fast, to secure all the sources of water, of Pakistan.

Act fast while there is still advantage to your side. Otherwise, the 10 times deep pockets of the reckless enemy, will not always be in your favour.

Act fast while there is still advantage, while there is still hope, while the enemy is still struggling and regrouping, instead of making public appearances everyday, on the media, and trying to explain to the world how you outmatched the enemy.

Time is short. Window of opportunity is waning fast.

Water is more important. Treaty or no treaty. Muslims have decieved / betrayed / backstabbed Muslims since the last 1400 years.

And you expect a non- Muslim enemy to give respect to a treaty ?

No matter the the guarantees / provisions, its a piece of paper after all.

Act fast while there is still time and world sympathy, somewhat, is on your side.

 

[Gripen9]

Your madras education won't help you here my friend.

Madras (Chennai) is a place in India. You most probably meant madrassa (a traditional islamic institution of learning) since you've been a particular about the english language on this thread.

I don't think you will get any concrete satellite BDA on PAF strikes. That is the end of it. If you want to take it as Pakistan's counter failed, then that is your prerogative.
How about we end this back and forth between the two of you.

 

[Dalit]

They believe in Karma and reincarnation...

An example: Rafale was born as a Brahmin -> commit sins -> die -> reborn as a Dalit (e.g., Mig-21)....

Now, search for a new Brahmin....

Rafale will reincarnate now as F-35/Su-57.

 

[Gripen9]

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Good Initiative but as many are pointing, should we have included some minority leader, especially some Sikh, Hindu or Christian leader in the group ? India is gonna run at Pakistan with accusations of Hindu targeting, we need to fight that perception with a message of diversity in our country, not only speak Good English

All grifters going on a summer vacay courtesy Pak taxpayers

 

[r3alist]

Prof. Brahma Chellany is right in the Tweet and your post is right about India's strategic blunders and that's what Pakistan's esteemed former Foreign Minister Khurshid Kasuri also said recently: India's foreign policy is 'DeRh Hushyaar' (Clever by Half). I have seen even Indians say that the Russian neutrality over this conflict is basically Russia against India now.
Those who appease everyone, appease no one.

India chooses to be in multiple camps without taking a clear stance. This is the price you pay. Remember that India is also the same country that humiliated Russia and stepped out of the Su-57 project. All of a sudden India has decided that they must again opt for the Su-57. This is just like Taliban were bad, but have become good since they are ruling in Afghanistan.

For a deeply learned civilizational state, they do seem short sighted. It was very apparent that the Americans had a broad 50 to 100 year plan with India, to get them fully on board on the China project.

and whilst they were congratulating themselves on their super duper deft diplomacy for the first 25 years, they did not realize that that was just a honeymoon period to butter them up, and there comes a point where you need a return on investment.



There was a similar parallel with the Pakistan and USA strategic alliance, where actually Pakistan had a pretty sweet run from the 50s up until Bangladesh. In this scenario Pakistan was a key ally to defeat the civilizational communist threat. The difference of course here is that Pakistan was fully on board supporting this initiative, and committed resources manpower and ideological support against communists, therefore they also managed to extract a nuclear deterrent as well as some useful American gear, and training and diplomatic support and military to military links

India however has positioned itself as an independent axis, an independent power and an independent pole in the world. This is an incredibly ambitious position to hold given the level of development, the level of technology and frankly they have no historical reference point of ever having this position in relevant world history.

I will be looking out, for any hints on the think tank circuit on reviewing India's consideration, the direction has not changed there is still a strong consensus to utilize India against China, I just cannot see how this can be done as of now

 

[Ali_Baba]

I thought @Baibers_1260 was being facetious/sarcastic in that post, no??!!

I dont think so - it read as trolling to me at least.

 

[Dalit]

For a deeply learned civilizational state, they do seem short sighted. It was very apparent that the Americans had a broad 50 to 100 year plan with India, to get them fully on board on the China project.

and whilst they were congratulating themselves on their super duper deft diplomacy for the first 25 years, they did not realize that that was just a honeymoon period to butter them up, and there comes a point where you need a return on investment.



There was a similar parallel with the Pakistan and USA strategic alliance, where actually Pakistan had a pretty sweet run from the 50s up until Bangladesh. In this scenario Pakistan was a key ally to defeat the civilizational communist threat. The difference of course here is that Pakistan was fully on board supporting this initiative, and committed resources manpower and ideological support against communists, therefore they also managed to extract a nuclear deterrent as well as some useful American gear, and training and diplomatic support and military to military links

India however has positioned itself as an independent axis, an independent power and an independent pole in the world. This is an incredibly ambitious position to hold given the level of development, the level of technology and frankly they have no historical reference point of ever having this position in relevant world history.

I will be looking out, for any hints on the think tank circuit on reviewing India's consideration, the direction has not changed there is still a strong consensus to utilize India against China, I just cannot see how this can be done as of now

The Americans have realised.

1. India simply won’t become cannon fodder for the US against China. No matter how hard the US pushes India.

2. India will continue to pretend it is anti-China, but it will also benefit from all camps including China. Just look at the trade figures.

If this isn’t a double game what else can we call it? Trump is very smart. The Biden’s and Obama’s of this world were toddlers in comparison. Trump is a ruthless and shrewd businessman. If Modi thinks he can play a duplicitous game he is in for a rude awakening.

 

[Meengla]

India chooses to be in multiple camps without taking a clear stance. This is the price you pay. Remember that India is also the same country that humiliated Russia and stepped out of the Su-57 project due to dissatisfaction. All of a sudden India has decided that they must again opt for the Su-57. This is just like Taliban were bad, but have become good since they are ruling in Afghanistan. India is riddled with hypocrisy and double standards.

Indians have no loyalty, no principles, no integrity and thus have no friends. And in another video, Prof. Chellaney even wonders why India has no friends and that India has to reflect about that.
Yeah, 'DeRh Hushyaar' (Too Clever by half), as Mr. Kasuri said. It's not even debatable and brilliantly put by some Indians like Pravin Swahney: India's friend are the the Zionists and the self-proclaimed only real Islamic nation on Earth, the Afghan Taliban-- Hahahhaa! But Afghans are in just for a few million $$. And I'd tell the Afghans: Hit them up for the $$!!!! Hahaha!!!

 

[Abid123]

Update: Air Marshall (R) Mujahid Anwar Khan said ceasefire is just an excuse to buy time, US and Israel supplying Indian weapons so that in next Indian attack on Pakistan they can force our forces so much so they use nukes on India and in response they will have excuse to denuclearize us (Pakistan).

@RescueRanger

Do you have the video?

 

[Meengla]

I dont think so - it read as trolling to me at least.

If you look at his other posts, he is rather against Modi, but then he is new to the forum so I could be wrong. I thought he was sarcastic--and may be trolling Indians!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Indians have no loyalty, no principles, no integrity and thus have no friends. And in another video, Prof. Chellaney even wonders why India has no friends and that India has to reflect about that.
Yeah, 'DeRh Hushyaar' (Too Clever by half), as Mr. Kasuri said. It's not even debatable and brilliantly put by some Indians like Pravin Swahney: India's friend are the the Zionists and the self-proclaimed only real Islamic nation on Earth, the Afghan Taliban-- Hahahhaa! But Afghans are in just for a few million $$. And I'd tell the Afghans: Hit them up for the $$!!!! Hahaha!!!

LOL! thats hilarious