Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[koolio]

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[Corax]

Looked like the forum was hacked / certainly unavailable for few hours and then when it came back on, seemed to be set at a previous date. I’m sure Admin can clarify…

Yep, the domain was linking to a crypto site for a while. Seems like lots of posts were deleted, especially by dubious members, indians pretending to be Pakistani. Mods, any answers?

 

[Meengla]

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@RescueRanger @Panzerkiel

Just have fun see how Indians are crying.

Indian media is full of breast beating. The Indian Congress Party is on full time offensive to lower Modi's popularity. Nothing surprising. And as pleasing is to Pakistani ears, the Indian breast beating media is not offering much new right now.

 

[koolio]

Why do they pretend that "we will leave Pakistan alone to debelop themselves, we encourage Pakistan to debelop instead of seek war, we only want everyone to debelop", and then, they harm our agriculture, they harm our income streams, they harm our global standing?

If they want a fight, we will fight them, no problem, but why this constant deception and chanakya?

What's the psychology that underlies this bizarre obsession to harm our economic interests while creating a false pretence of encouraging us to pursue our own economic advancement?

Bro they will never accept Pakistan let alone to see it prosper and develop, these Hindutvas, Sanghi clans and other extreme groups keep dreaming to regain Pakistan as thier lost territory and will do everything to get it back, but these blood thirsty beasts will never win, insha'Allah a day will come when Pakistan will start taking the fight into Indian Territories and reclaim India.

 

[Corax]

PAF had achieved complete air superiority on both sides of the border on may 7. It could have breeched the border (or come close to it) with full radar jamming to disorient Indian radars and taken the battle to the Su30 bases deep in India and launched A-G weapons similar to what they did on FEb 2019. Even if they didnt breech the border, why didnt they attack the Indian bases near the border such as Pathankot and Halwara and Adampur using SOW from the Pakistan side....these IAF bases were sitting ducks for PAF as PAF could have imposed a NFZ on the western air command of IAF. My only hypothesis was that PAF was scared shit of the S400 and that is why it did not want to go anywhere close to the border to lob A-G weapons

You have asked some tough questions and likely to be answered with insults by fanboys.

Unlike the claims made, the threat of S400 did have impact on PAF operations and they weren’t as free to operate as claimed by many.
Pathankot base is just few kilometres from the IB and could have been easily engaged by standoff weapons from deep inside Pakistan.
But it wasn’t attempted, most likely due to S400 threat.
There are also many claims that S400 was destroyed by PAF. If PAF was so sure of the success of its destruction then why didn’t it use that opportunity to strike Indian bases?

These are some questions that have remained unanswered and I see no effort to discuss them either.

Seems like indians having fantasies about S400 again. If you believe the S400 was the panacea that it was meant to be, and all the claims of "grounding the PAF" and establishing a "no fly zone in Pakistan", how come the PAF were able to obliterate the IAF on the night of the 7th? Why wasn't your mighty airforce able to operate under the protection of the S400 with its much vaunted 400km range? I mean, wouldn't that have allowed the IAF to operate with impunity right up to the border with Pakistan? Is this the "tactical mistake" your CDS was referring to?

Clearly the PAF deployed SEAD measures to negate your S400 on the night of the 7th. Your IAF was grounded for two days scratching their arses to figure out what to do, and the best they came up with is to fly outside of the envelope of the PL15, firing a few token Scalps and maybe brahmos, most of which appear to have been either defeated by soft kill or intercepted with hard kill measures.

The failure from the Pakistani side is that they also waited too long, two days too, before launching their response. And when they did, they specifically targeted your S400 again. It may be debatable whether they actually managed a DEAD mission, but they definitely succeeded in SEAD, as your S400s were forced to shut down, redeploy, or go into storage...i.e. chicken out and hide. And then the ceasefire came.

 

[baqai]

Yeah, they maybe misreporting, will all be cleared up when they get official recognition.

i guess we will find out on 7th September, can't wait

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Seems like indians having fantasies about S400 again. If you believe the S400 was the panacea that it was meant to be, and all the claims of "grounding the PAF" and establishing a "no fly zone in Pakistan", how come the PAF were able to obliterate the IAF on the night of the 7th? Why wasn't your mighty airforce able to operate under the protection of the S400 with its much vaunted 400km range? I mean, wouldn't that have allowed the IAF to operate with impunity right up to the border with Pakistan? Is this the "tactical mistake" your CDS was referring to?

Clearly the PAF deployed SEAD measures to negate your S400 on the night of the 7th. Your IAF was grounded for two days scratching their arses to figure out what to do, and the best they came up with is to fly outside of the envelope of the PL15, firing a few token Scalps and maybe brahmos, most of which appear to have been either defeated by soft kill or intercepted with hard kill measures.

The failure from the Pakistani side is that they also waited too long, two days too, before launching their response. And when they did, they specifically targeted your S400 again. It may be debatable whether they actually managed a DEAD mission, but they definitely succeeded in SEAD, as your S400s were forced to shut down, redeploy, or go into storage...i.e. chicken out and hide. And then the ceasefire came.

Does anyone remember on the old forum when india first got the s-400 a few years back? When the indians used to claim that with the s-400, Pakistani and Chinese fighter jets and missiles could no longer enter indian airspace and that india was now a superpower. indians also claimed that they had a better ballistic missile defence than the americans..........lol

 

[Maarkhoor]

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[NationalistPKDude132]

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I believe this guy died due to Medical reason so lets not spread fake news here

Although I wonder why indians love israelis so much

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

i guess we will find out on 7th September, can't wait

We also lack some details on Our retaliatory Operation..


Btw Indian Military gave Pak Military alot of legitimacy and they can write alot of books on this event aswell

Im sure we will get to know all the events soon

 

[PakSword]

Looked like the forum was hacked / certainly unavailable for few hours and then when it came back on, seemed to be set at a previous date. I’m sure Admin can clarify…

Not a good news if hacked.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Not a good news if hacked.

Yeah obviously being hacked is not good

But its just a website

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

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The jewish state feels threatened by another state which is miles away from it



We are a threat to Israeli sorveignity because we hold nukes

 

[Meengla]

Seems like indians having fantasies about S400 again. If you believe the S400 was the panacea that it was meant to be, and all the claims of "grounding the PAF" and establishing a "no fly zone in Pakistan", how come the PAF were able to obliterate the IAF on the night of the 7th? Why wasn't your mighty airforce able to operate under the protection of the S400 with its much vaunted 400km range? I mean, wouldn't that have allowed the IAF to operate with impunity right up to the border with Pakistan? Is this the "tactical mistake" your CDS was referring to?

Slight credit to Indian Airforce on the 7 May debacle: IAF was launched to attack ground targets in Pakistan and India had even given prior warning. Those were the advantages Pakistan used in a defensive posture to target and destroy IAF jets.
As for S400 and what not air defense systems on either side: They are largely ineffective between potent militaries in case of saturation strikes by Surface to Surface and Air to Surface missiles and by lethal drones. On that score, I don't think Pakistan's poorer geographical and economic strategic depth compared with India is a good match. Pakistan must think something new.

The failure from the Pakistani side is that they also waited too long, two days too, before launching their response. And when they did, they specifically targeted your S400 again. It may be debatable whether they actually managed a DEAD mission, but they definitely succeeded in SEAD, as your S400s were forced to shut down, redeploy, or go into storage...i.e. chicken out and hide. And then the ceasefire came.

Pakistan didn't want to escalate after the gains on May 7. And India kept playing a game between May 7 and May 10 about a ceasefire. Pakistan was ahead, India was behind. That would explain a lot.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Slight credit to Indian Airforce on the 7 May debacle: IAF was launched to attack ground targets in Pakistan and India had even given prior warning. Those were the advantages Pakistan used in a defensive posture to target and destroy IAF jets.
As for S400 and what not air defense systems on either side: They are largely ineffective between potent militaries in case of saturation strikes by Surface to Surface and Air to Surface missiles and by lethal drones. On that score, I don't think Pakistan's poorer geographical and economic strategic depth compared with India is a good match. Pakistan must think something new.


Pakistan didn't want to escalate after the gains on May 7. And India kept playing a game between May 7 and May 10 about a ceasefire. Pakistan was ahead, India was behind. That would explain a lot.

India wanted to drag it to 10th to get a win

They got it with "destroying" our airbases.

We got it with destroying their airbases(Op Bunyan Um Marsoos) 2 S400s(Likely True but still need more evidence) and also 6 jets that were downed on top of it