Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Jango007 said:
I have a question....
WHO THE F>>>IS TOM COOPER????

I cannot find anything about this guy Indians are quoting.....I will call him personally if he is some well known guy.
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Military historian specialising in aerial warfare history from Austria.
He has been salty about Pakistan ever since the good old days (almost two decades +) of pakdef when Usman Shabbir, HKhan & a few others swept the floor with him using evidence from PAF's archives & third party authors regarding the 65 & 71 air wars which negated his perceptions/beliefs.
I wouldn't pay him much attention unless it came to air wars in Africa on which he is an undisputed authority.
 
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redgriffin said:
Military historian specialising in aerial warfare history from Austria.
He has been salty about Pakistan ever since the good old days (almost two decades +) of pakdef when Usman Shabbir, HKhan & a few others swept the floor with him using evidence from PAF's archives & third party authors regarding the 65 & 71 air wars which negated his perceptions/beliefs.
I wouldn't pay him much attention unless it came to air wars in Africa on which he is an undisputed authority.
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Now those names bring back memories
 
The Indian Foreign Minister probably called in during the last moments prior to the attack on civilian infrastructure in Pakistan.

The Indian government, the cucks that they are, thought they can let some steam off domestically, and tell the Pakistani government that we are done with the attacks and hope we can all play nice.

The pricks that the Indians are, thought Pakistan will back down after attacks on civilian infrastructure, deaths of innocents and holding the IWT in abeyance (water terrorism).

The Indian government totally deserved this. 6 jets downed, S400s cheeseboards up in smoke and the terrorist police head in Jammu rotting in hell.

My only qualm is the Indians that were vying for war did not see enough Hatfs flying over their heads en route to Indian bases in Delhi and UP.
 
Every Airforce wants to learn tactics

Good thing is such exercises takes time to learn. So we will see good bonding with airforces

Shaheen exercise PLAAF & PAF in 2012 started with dog fight. By 2019 they started exercise with bvr and electronic warfare.

By 2020 they started exercise for sophisticated air defense... And beyond that multi domain operations...

A good time to work with airforces and sell jf17 as well
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Oracle said:
Every Airforce wants to learn tactics

Good thing is such exercises takes time to learn. So we will see good bonding with airforces

Shaheen exercise PLAAF & PAF in 2012 started with dog fight. By 2019 they started exercise with bvr and electronic warfare.

By 2020 they started exercise for sophisticated air defense... And beyond that multi domain operations...

A good time to work with airforces and sell jf17 as well
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Right very nice. Our air force tactics are quite good

And we have finally taken some initatives to improve our AD too but we should stock up on more defense equipment and build a layered defense system

HQ-9 HQ-19 and HQ-17


We can also like i said can get DF-17 from china which will be a answer to brahmos.
 
Geran Doctrine.....

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PAKISTANFOREVER said:
Apart from comprehensively developing the means to wipe india off the universe and obliterating ALL indians, there is no other option left for Pakistan with regards to india.
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Exactly, we have an enemy that either wants to overtake our country totally, or failing that, it wants to destroy us completely and it will never show restraint if it ever gets an upper hand.

So Pakistan must be ruthless in the next round or this whole cat and mouse game will never end and will just lead to instability for Pakistan. Need to take enemy out permanently and make several countries out of it. No mercy. Its the only lingo they would understand.
The so-called "peace-loverS" can pack up and move elsewhere! Pakistan does not need such weaklings who give a cowardly posture/message to the enemy which only emboldens them to attack our soil.
We must stand with and fully support our passionate, brave and valiant military forces in every way possible in their tasks to protect every inch of the soil.
Pakistan Zindabad.
 
PK781 said:
Exactly, we have an enemy that either wants to overtake our country totally, or failing that, it wants to destroy us completely and it will never show restraint if it ever gets an upper hand.

So Pakistan must be ruthless in the next round or this whole cat and mouse game will never end and will just lead to instability for Pakistan. Need to take enemy out permanently and make several countries out of it. No mercy. Its the only lingo they would understand.
The so-called "peace-loverS" can pack up and move elsewhere! Pakistan does not need such weaklings who give a cowardly posture/message to the enemy which only emboldens them to attack our soil.
We must stand with and fully support our passionate, brave and valiant military forces in every way possible in their tasks to protect every inch of the soil.
Pakistan Zindabad.
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I dont know if breaking india into several countries is possible but what we must do is in the next (god forbid) Conflict we must attack relentlessly to defend ourselves



"Offense is the best defense"
 
s400 and even S500 or beyond is nothing when Allah SWT and his unseen 'lashkar's is with us, don't worry about these minor things.
We CAN destroy it all. Believe in your forces and people !!
 
PAKISTANFOREVER said:
Apart from comprehensively developing the means to wipe india off the universe and obliterating ALL indians, there is no other option left for Pakistan with regards to india.
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They don't want to just attack Pakistanis in Pakistan. They are after every Pakistani around the world.

The events in January when Musk and his Indian bots were pushing a narrative of demonization of Pakistanis, they were laying the groundwork for this moment so that the world doesn't feel sorry for poor helpless Pakistani children being bombed by India. They were all expecting total victory for India and for Pakistanis begging for mercy on TV while they laugh at our despair.

Even Farage now admitting Indian bots are interfering in UK politics and society.

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