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Europe can sustain Ukraine's war effort without US, German general says​

By Sabine Siebold
June 6, 20258:28 PM GMT+8

  • Summary
  • Political will is the key requirement, general says
  • 'Cautious assumption' U.S. to allow defence buys for Kyiv
  • Says U.S. intelligence, Patriot air defence hard to replace
BERLIN, June 6 (Reuters) - Europe is capable of sustaining Ukraine's resistance against Russia, even if the United States were to decide to completely halt its military support to Kyiv, the senior military official in charge of coordinating Germany's arms supplies told Reuters.

Major General Christian Freuding said NATO's European members plus Canada had already exceeded the estimated $20 billion worth of U.S. military aid provided last year to Kyiv.

They accounted for around 60% of the total costs borne by the Western allies, he said.

"The war against Ukraine is raging on our continent, it is also being waged against the European security order. If the political will is there, then the means will also be there to largely compensate for the American support," Freuding said in an interview.

Ukraine continues to receive weapons deliveries approved by former U.S. President Joe Biden. It is unclear, however, whether his successor Donald Trump will sign off on any new supplies - or allow third countries to purchase U.S. weapons for Kyiv.

Asked how long the Biden-approved deliveries will sustain Kyiv, Freuding said this depended on logistical processes as well as the speed at which Ukraine burns through arms and ammunition, but that the summer seemed a realistic estimate.

"How the American government handles further requests for military support for Ukraine is unclear at the moment. We can't say anything about that," he added.
"In general, the U.S. has a great interest in boosting its own defence industry. I make the cautious assumption that at least purchasing U.S. defence goods, and delivering them to Ukraine, will be possible."

RUSSIAN REARMAMENT​

Addressing the potential threat that Russia might pose beyond Ukraine, Freuding said Moscow had a clear plan to reconstitute and grow its military, and was expected to succeed in efforts to double its land forces to 1.5 million by 2026.

"They are recruiting significantly more personnel than they need as replacements for the war in Ukraine. They are producing surplus stocks of ammunition, in particular, which they are 'putting on store'".

Freuding said Russia was also ramping up its military infrastructure, especially in its western military district bordering new NATO member Finland.
Any ceasefire in Ukraine could allow Russia to accelerate its rearmament efforts ahead of a possible large-scale attack on NATO territory, he said. The alliance currently believes this could occur from 2029.

"Of course, a ceasefire could change the threat situation," Freuding said.

Russia denies planning to attack NATO and says it is waging a "special military operation" in Ukraine to protect its own security against what it casts as an aggressive, hostile West.

Germany has provided a total of 38 billion euros ($43 billion) in military aid to Ukraine, including funds earmarked for the coming years, making it the second largest donor after the United States, the defence ministry in Berlin says.

Freuding said he was not aware of the Trump administration having endorsed any U.S. arms deliveries to Kyiv paid for by third countries.
Still, making up for certain crucial parts of U.S. military support to Ukraine would pose significant challenges to Europe.

Listing capabilities that would be hard for Europeans to replace, Freuding cited U.S. intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) data, air defence systems like Patriot and spare parts for U.S. weapons.

"If we are capable of replacing specific (ISR) capabilities to a sufficient extent - we need to look into this when we definitely know the Americans won't provide this data anymore."

Ukraine uses U.S. intelligence data to help its air defence, and analysts say also for targeting.
 
Someone got stop this meaningless war from dragging on forever.
 
When did Europeans learn to tell jokes, from the financial system to weapons and equipment, from geopolitics to government departments, and are as tied to the United States as cross-shareholdings
 
When did Europeans learn to tell jokes, from the financial system to weapons and equipment, from geopolitics to government departments, and are as tied to the United States as cross-shareholdings

Excuse me. German humor is the best out there.
 
When did Europeans learn to tell jokes, from the financial system to weapons and equipment, from geopolitics to government departments, and are as tied to the United States as cross-shareholdings
I heard that statement thousands times, but tell me one real thing Europe needs USA? I mean one “real”. there is none.
 
Why don't the war hungry Germans and power hungry French get real to send troops to Ukraine to defeat the dreaded Russians ? Talk is cheap.
 
I heard that statement thousands times, but tell me one real thing Europe needs USA? I mean one “real”. there is none.
In reality, whether the European brain can think independently depends on the number of American bases in Europe. De Gaulle has a great chance to make Europe independent. Macron has no chance.
 
In reality, whether the European brain can think independently depends on the number of American bases in Europe. De Gaulle has a great chance to make Europe independent. Macron has no chance.
my friend, it’s all about perception. when did Russia win the last war?
France is different. the french in general don’t like the americans. Chinese don’t like the people of India. almost same same.
 
my friend, it’s all about perception. when did Russia win the last war?
France is different. the french in general don’t like the americans. Chinese don’t like the people of India. almost same same.
Remember when Europe formed a coalition of the willing? What did Italy say in the last sentence? Next time, let Trump join the meeting. Russia's negotiating partner has always been the United States. Europe has been marginalized in the whole game. Finally, I want to say that Russia has won the territory, the United States has won the mineral resources, what has Europe got? Glory?
Looking at the performance of German leaders in the White House, in Chinese words, they are short of kneeling and kowtowing to ask the United States to agree to European support for Ukraine.
 
Remember when Europe formed a coalition of the willing? What did Italy say in the last sentence? Next time, let Trump join the meeting. Russia's negotiating partner has always been the United States. Europe has been marginalized in the whole game. Finally, I want to say that Russia has won the territory, the United States has won the mineral resources, what has Europe got? Glory?
Looking at the performance of German leaders in the White House, in Chinese words, they are short of kneeling and kowtowing to ask the United States to agree to European support for Ukraine.
Well, pls understand real politics. Putin, Trump both men have the longest penis, they have the most nukes. my last hope is on China. we have lots of conflicts and differences with the Chinese but at least they are sane people.
 
They technically can, but not at their current level of military expenditure and production.

US is a military powerhouse not because of their number of planes, ships and soldiers but because of their supply lines and logistical bases across the world.

Just like how Rome always had the upperhand because "all roads lead to Rome". They had clear supply lines and could keep on engaging an enemy indefinitely.
 
@Sam6536

Hope the Euros buy arms from our arms industries.

Regards
They do buy artillery shells from us and then sell them to Ukraine.

India has exported a lot of small arms ammunition and artillery shells globally. We can start from there.
 
but tell me one real thing Europe needs USA?

They need people telling them to get their defense industries in shape instead of holding hands in dance circles singing everything is fine.
 

Europe can sustain Ukraine's war effort without US, German general says​

By Sabine Siebold
June 6, 20258:28 PM GMT+8

  • Summary
  • Political will is the key requirement, general says
  • 'Cautious assumption' U.S. to allow defence buys for Kyiv
  • Says U.S. intelligence, Patriot air defence hard to replace
BERLIN, June 6 (Reuters) - Europe is capable of sustaining Ukraine's resistance against Russia, even if the United States were to decide to completely halt its military support to Kyiv, the senior military official in charge of coordinating Germany's arms supplies told Reuters.

Major General Christian Freuding said NATO's European members plus Canada had already exceeded the estimated $20 billion worth of U.S. military aid provided last year to Kyiv.

They accounted for around 60% of the total costs borne by the Western allies, he said.

"The war against Ukraine is raging on our continent, it is also being waged against the European security order. If the political will is there, then the means will also be there to largely compensate for the American support," Freuding said in an interview.

Ukraine continues to receive weapons deliveries approved by former U.S. President Joe Biden. It is unclear, however, whether his successor Donald Trump will sign off on any new supplies - or allow third countries to purchase U.S. weapons for Kyiv.

Asked how long the Biden-approved deliveries will sustain Kyiv, Freuding said this depended on logistical processes as well as the speed at which Ukraine burns through arms and ammunition, but that the summer seemed a realistic estimate.

"How the American government handles further requests for military support for Ukraine is unclear at the moment. We can't say anything about that," he added.
"In general, the U.S. has a great interest in boosting its own defence industry. I make the cautious assumption that at least purchasing U.S. defence goods, and delivering them to Ukraine, will be possible."

RUSSIAN REARMAMENT​

Addressing the potential threat that Russia might pose beyond Ukraine, Freuding said Moscow had a clear plan to reconstitute and grow its military, and was expected to succeed in efforts to double its land forces to 1.5 million by 2026.

"They are recruiting significantly more personnel than they need as replacements for the war in Ukraine. They are producing surplus stocks of ammunition, in particular, which they are 'putting on store'".

Freuding said Russia was also ramping up its military infrastructure, especially in its western military district bordering new NATO member Finland.
Any ceasefire in Ukraine could allow Russia to accelerate its rearmament efforts ahead of a possible large-scale attack on NATO territory, he said. The alliance currently believes this could occur from 2029.

"Of course, a ceasefire could change the threat situation," Freuding said.

Russia denies planning to attack NATO and says it is waging a "special military operation" in Ukraine to protect its own security against what it casts as an aggressive, hostile West.

Germany has provided a total of 38 billion euros ($43 billion) in military aid to Ukraine, including funds earmarked for the coming years, making it the second largest donor after the United States, the defence ministry in Berlin says.

Freuding said he was not aware of the Trump administration having endorsed any U.S. arms deliveries to Kyiv paid for by third countries.
Still, making up for certain crucial parts of U.S. military support to Ukraine would pose significant challenges to Europe.

Listing capabilities that would be hard for Europeans to replace, Freuding cited U.S. intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) data, air defence systems like Patriot and spare parts for U.S. weapons.

"If we are capable of replacing specific (ISR) capabilities to a sufficient extent - we need to look into this when we definitely know the Americans won't provide this data anymore."

Ukraine uses U.S. intelligence data to help its air defence, and analysts say also for targeting.

Yes.

Europe can defend itself, but at what cost?

Europe doesn't realize that it is falling into the USA's trap.

It's harvest time for the USA to enrich itself.

Europe will end up like Japan with lost decades.
 

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