Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[airhead]

This guy is 100% indian trying to disguise as Pakistani

How can we release video?! It was in indian land

More Pakistani than you will ever be …what is the difference between you and arnab Goswami ? Nothing ..you believe everything fed to you

 

[airhead]

You're the moron ...don't know the difference between optically guided H4 and INS/GPS/EM guided C400...di your chacha in the PAF not telling you the difference? Lol now fck off you dumb tunni dalit cnt

No place for foul language Goswami ..mods please get rid of this guy

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

More Pakistani than you will ever be …what is the difference between you and arnab Goswami ? Nothing ..you believe everything fed to you

And yet you live lavishly in the united states

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

In your dream you **** all piece of shit...

Oh so you are indian

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

S-400 was the side show, the starter course if you may.

World was woken up by Rafale losses.....

In any war, losses are expected. Losing a Rafale is significant, but it also shows that the Indian Air Force (IAF) didn’t make more mistakes — overall, they lost max three aircrafts in 1st day while attacking land targets.

The key point is that course correction was made. As confirmed, most of the BrahMos strikes were launched from Su-30 MKIs targeting Pakistani airbases — later.

I’ve already pointed out the core challenges facing the IAF. It’s not about the quality of the aircraft or the skill of the pilots. The real issue lies in outdated strategy and tactical thinking. That’s clear from the fact that India still operates with only 3–4 AWACS and has virtually no dedicated electronic warfare (EW) aircraft. Modern warfare has evolved — and once the IAF fully embraces this, things will change dramatically. With 12–14 AWACS and 10+ EW platforms, along with ground-based and satellite systems, India’s capabilities would reach a one of the top level.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s biggest weakness is in its air defense systems. It lacks a multi-layered defense architecture. What Pakistan truly needs is a system similar to what Israel has — integrated, layered, and fast-reacting.

India may have started with losses, but they quickly exposed the vulnerabilities in Pakistan’s defense setup. And in today’s warfare, **you simply can’t win without effective defense**.

Pakistan began with an edge, but ultimately lost that advantage due to weak air defense. That shift decided the course of diengagement.

 

[Waz]

More than the 5/6 aircraft shot down the psychological damage to the IAF is immense. Talk to any fighter pilot and they'll tell you the impact losses have on them, especially when your ace cards are down.
The IAF went far back deep inside their own territory and fired, with layers of air defense in front of them. In a future conflict what does that say that their air wing may not be operating anywhere near frontline fighting? It can leave the door open for quick offensives on the land front, where Pakistani objectives can be met .

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

In any war, losses are expected. Losing a Rafale is significant, but it also shows that the Indian Air Force (IAF) didn’t make no mistakes — overall, they lost max three aircrafts in 1st day while attacking land targets.

The key point is that course correction was made. As confirmed, most of the BrahMos strikes were launched from Su-30 MKIs targeting Pakistani airbases — later.

I’ve already pointed out the core challenges facing the IAF. It’s not about the quality of the aircraft or the skill of the pilots. The real issue lies in outdated strategy and tactical thinking. That’s clear from the fact that India still operates with only 3–4 AWACS and has virtually no dedicated electronic warfare (EW) aircraft. Modern warfare has evolved — and once the IAF fully embraces this, things will change dramatically. With 12–14 AWACS and 10+ EW platforms, along with ground-based and satellite systems, India’s capabilities would reach a one of the top level.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s biggest weakness is in its air defense systems. It lacks a multi-layered defense architecture. What Pakistan truly needs is a system similar to what Israel has — integrated, layered, and fast-reacting.

India may have started with losses, but they quickly exposed the vulnerabilities in Pakistan’s defense setup. And in today’s warfare, **you simply can’t win without effective defense**.

Pakistan began with an edge, but ultimately lost that advantage due to weak air defense. That shift decided the course of engagement.

This is huge cope that you pass off losing a 300 million jet as peanut money

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

More than the 5/6 aircraft shot down the psychological damage to the IAF is immense. Talk to any fighter pilot and they'll tell you the impact losses have on them, especially when your ace cards are down.
The IAF went far back deep inside their own territory and fired, with layers of air defense in front of them. In a future conflict what does that say that their air wing may not be operating anywhere near frontline fighting? It can leave the door open for quick offensives on the land front, where Pakistani objectives can be met .

yep, they are obviously Psychologically defeated against PAF.

I say our only mistake was retaliating too late and we shouldve done it on 8th or 9th

Now we need to focus on two things:
.Making or acquiring Hypersonic missile

.Locally producing drones

.Improving AD and Hq-19 is a good first step

 

[PakSword]

1. Stop terrorism
2. Vacate Pakistan Azaad Kashmir
3. Then we will think about it...
What a piece of shit this Yasser guy is - effin nobody

If shooting down your jets in every skirmish is called terrorism, it won't stop, sorry!
Regarding IOJK, you will have to forcefully vacate it once Pakistan and China finally decide to take their parts of Kashmir. Azad Kashmir, don't even think about it now.. you missed the bus in 1971.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Jeb main Yes it is peanut money, India is not running to IMF for bail-outs while last I checked, Pakistan is begging for a few $B dollars every six months or so

Immigrated 12 years back to US, unlike low-life who only dream of moving to other countries but can never make it happen

Lol so you think India has unlimited money? last time i checked Indias Debt to GDP ratio is higher then ours

Ok go enjoy your lavish life in the USA

 

[airhead]

In any war, losses are expected. Losing a Rafale is significant, but it also shows that the Indian Air Force (IAF) didn’t make no mistakes — overall, they lost max three aircrafts in 1st day while attacking land targets.

The key point is that course correction was made. As confirmed, most of the BrahMos strikes were launched from Su-30 MKIs targeting Pakistani airbases — later.

I’ve already pointed out the core challenges facing the IAF. It’s not about the quality of the aircraft or the skill of the pilots. The real issue lies in outdated strategy and tactical thinking. That’s clear from the fact that India still operates with only 3–4 AWACS and has virtually no dedicated electronic warfare (EW) aircraft. Modern warfare has evolved — and once the IAF fully embraces this, things will change dramatically. With 12–14 AWACS and 10+ EW platforms, along with ground-based and satellite systems, India’s capabilities would reach a one of the top level.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s biggest weakness is in its air defense systems. It lacks a multi-layered defense architecture. What Pakistan truly needs is a system similar to what Israel has — integrated, layered, and fast-reacting.

India may have started with losses, but they quickly exposed the vulnerabilities in Pakistan’s defense setup. And in today’s warfare, **you simply can’t win without effective defense**.

Pakistan began with an edge, but ultimately lost that advantage due to weak air defense. That shift decided the course of engagement.

This whole indian narrative of “losses is part of conflict “ frankly is bogus. Paf did not have a single a-a loss and most likely nothing lost on the ground. No, losses are not part of conflict . If you plan well there is something called “deny loss”..you make sure you don’t put yourself in a vulnerable position visa via the enemy. Also in swift retort Paf did not have any losses. During the entire afghan war Paf did not have any losses. So this whole narrative of “losses are part of combat “ is bullshit. Paf outclassed Iaf and is just better. Yes air defense is lacking and we need better strategy to counter Brahmos but I tell you the psychological impact of a-a loss is huge. Iaf did not dare come anywhere close to the border post May 7 and it probably never will

 

[Windjammer]

@Waz
Are you noticing these lowlife Bakhtoras turning everything into a slumdog street
Some culling is required before some of us are forced to push these cockroaches back into their hole .

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

If shooting down your jets in every skirmish is called terrorism, it won't stop, sorry!
Regarding IOJK, you will have to forcefully vacate it once Pakistan and China finally decide to take their parts of Kashmir. Azad Kashmir, don't even think about it now.. you missed the bus in 1971.

hey! Now i learnt today that indias mistake in preventing a terrorist attack must surely mean that pakistan committed it their cow power tells them that

 

[Yasser76]

In any war, losses are expected. Losing a Rafale is significant, but it also shows that the Indian Air Force (IAF) didn’t make more mistakes — overall, they lost max three aircrafts in 1st day while attacking land targets.

The key point is that course correction was made. As confirmed, most of the BrahMos strikes were launched from Su-30 MKIs targeting Pakistani airbases — later.

I’ve already pointed out the core challenges facing the IAF. It’s not about the quality of the aircraft or the skill of the pilots. The real issue lies in outdated strategy and tactical thinking. That’s clear from the fact that India still operates with only 3–4 AWACS and has virtually no dedicated electronic warfare (EW) aircraft. Modern warfare has evolved — and once the IAF fully embraces this, things will change dramatically. With 12–14 AWACS and 10+ EW platforms, along with ground-based and satellite systems, India’s capabilities would reach a one of the top level.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s biggest weakness is in its air defense systems. It lacks a multi-layered defense architecture. What Pakistan truly needs is a system similar to what Israel has — integrated, layered, and fast-reacting.

India may have started with losses, but they quickly exposed the vulnerabilities in Pakistan’s defense setup. And in today’s warfare, **you simply can’t win without effective defense**.

Pakistan began with an edge, but ultimately lost that advantage due to weak air defense. That shift decided the course of diengagement.

Unfortunately not much of this post has any basis in any form or fact.

US, Russia and Pakistan have outlined who ended this conflict. India denies it.

Rafale losses alone are three claimed, India has still not denied this, although you seem to be making up your facts.

 

[Yasser76]

More than the 5/6 aircraft shot down the psychological damage to the IAF is immense. Talk to any fighter pilot and they'll tell you the impact losses have on them, especially when your ace cards are down.
The IAF went far back deep inside their own territory and fired, with layers of air defense in front of them. In a future conflict what does that say that their air wing may not be operating anywhere near frontline fighting? It can leave the door open for quick offensives on the land front, where Pakistani objectives can be met .

In the last 50 years of air warfare only Iraq, Syria and Yugoslavia have lost more planes in air to air combat.

In last 27 years no one has suffered as many losses in air to air combat. No one.

The damage this has done will not be fully realised for a few more months I feel.