Los Angeles Clashes between ICE and demonstrators, Trump sends in the National Guard.

[AZ_HighCountry]

They are illegal.
Some of them are criminals.
They need to go.

Otherwise it's a slap in the face to those law abiding people who wait patiently in line to immigrate legally.

Absolutely correct.

I know several naturalized citizens and they are the most angry about the idea of giving amnesty to illegals. A couple in particular have been very vocal about it.

A big problem, as you well know since you lived here, is the MSM and a lot of politicians deliberately and intentionally conflate illegal immigration with legal immigration.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

the Trump voters don't like the law abiding patient immigrants either and will expel them too. They only like white immigrants like rich Afrikaners.

That is an absurd statement.

 

[SaadH]

Such as?

The Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause prevents the federal government from depriving individuals of life, liberty, or property without due process of law

 

[gambit]

The Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause prevents the federal government from depriving individuals of life, liberty, or property without due process of law

Due process is the high level principle.

Step down one or two levels, and we will find that 'due process' differs between citizens and non-citizens. Do you know the differences?

 

[Developereo]

the Trump voters don't like the law abiding patient immigrants either and will expel them too. They only like white immigrants like rich Afrikaners.

I remember a number of Pakistanis here voted for Trump. Trump said some stupid things but he also said some sensible things.

Personally, I didn't vote so can't take the blame or credit.

 

[KingQamaR]

Ice Raids kidnapping people off streets or kidnapping labourers, is so terrible and wrong. The people they picked up are hard working people who probably add more to the United States country than the lacy locals do.

 

[j_hungary]

Due process is the high level principle.

Step down one or two levels, and we will find that 'due process' differs between citizens and non-citizens. Do you know the differences?

due process were supposed to be the same for a citizens and non-citizens, because that's the law of the land, which only count the land, not the residence status, also because if that is difference, then you are going to have a different responsibility between citizens and non-citizens, because rights (things like due process) and responsibilities goes hand in hand.

While I will say illegal immigrant should not be treated differently, but what this admin is doing is not changing anything other than creating numerous lawsuit that would make his last one (Seperation of vhildren and their illegal parents) in his last presidency looks like foreplay. The end does not justify the mean, just because they are illegal that does not mean the government can approach it with their own illegal mean, as I said I am as against birthright citizenship as the next person, but I believe in if you want to change it, you need to change the constitution, not simply by-pass it with an EO. That's not how things is done here.

 

[hyperman]

That is true.

So are YOU saying that illegal aliens have the right to be in the US?

Buddy the Guy in Charge is all criminal as they come, this has nothing to do with the law. and everything to do with White Nationalism.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Meanwhile, the CVs of some of these "very fine immigrants" the left so desperately want to protect:

Immigration authorities highlight criminal history of multiple migrants arrested in Los Angeles

Federal immigration authorities said some of the migrants arrested in Los Angeles last week had criminal histories that included assault and drug offenses.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Hendarto]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Hendarto]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Hendarto]

crazy!

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

crazy!

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

This is tame compared to the Watts Riots of 1965.

 

[That_Guy]

The only example of which I am aware is that judge in Wisconsin who illegally aided a fugitive to escape arrest by federal agents.

Are there any other examples of ICE arresting judges?

It wasn't illegal, nor immoral. Most lawyers are saying it's a farce.

Also, immigration lawyers being harassed at airports, and at their homes, detained, arrested and released constantly.

You may be aware of one example, but there are dozens, and more are being added constantly.

 

[That_Guy]

Such as?

Such as deporting people despite court orders. Deporting citizens. Arresting lawmakers on phoney charges?

Gavin Newscum will fold like a cheap suit.

Gavin Newsom won't, he has no reason to fold. He has every reason to fight back.

If anything, it's likely Trump is gonna fold. There's a reason why Trump is being called a TACO right now.

this isn't a debate. I'm not gonna debate established facts.