Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Michael]

Can anyone try to answer? Do you guys think China could have fared better? I mean, if China can't even handle less than 200 F-35s from Israel they're in no position to fight the US miltary over Taiwan......

In war, there are no “ifs.”

If you want to know China's reaction, you can ask India and Vietnam.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Hamas leadership was never penetrated hence the success of October 7th

Sinwar and Deif survived in a tiny strip of land for months and months

Bagheri Salami Hajizadeh Shamkhani etc all died in 10 minutes

Sinwar was counter-intelligence and executed collaborators personally. We would have been blessed to have someone like him.

 

[Olympus81]

Surely Iran is not dumb to have all their fissile materials and nuclear logistics in one place. They would have redundancy in place.

I do not believe Iran can be decapitated. The IRGC will retaliate with missiles, UAVs and activate all their proxies.

There is a lot of fog of war.

 

[Baadil]

Israel calls it “Operation Rising Lion”

Strong sense this is a reference to the “Lion and Sun” symbol and suggests military action against Iran will be designed to precipitate regime change

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Starlord]

at this point the proxies that Iran armed fought better than Iran itself...

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

And this is why you need a decent air force. You think Israel would be able to do this if Iran had a hundred Su-30s, or even a few dozen Su-57s which Russia has been trying to get Iran to commit to?

I dont wanna hear about how Iran has a "multiple layered air defense system", because clearly it failed.

Iran's retaliation is once again not gonna kill a single Israeli, and I have no doubt that they'll just launch a bare minimum amount of missile and drone strikes again.

I have no faith in the Iranian government that they'll actually do any damage of significance.

Not airforce - defence systems.

Airforce cant do anything if fired missiles from long distance

 

[Falcon29]

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They were involved and approved it weeks ago. Iranian government and regime is done if they don't respond disproportionately. They need to react crazily. Otherwise they'll suffer
fate of Hezbollah.

Die trying. Don't just die.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

A blind man could have seen this coming. It was almost inevitable.Iran already knew this was happening, and their response is to sleep

The Iranian leadership's decision making is always astounding to me.

Since last when they did remove Raisi, and I had already sensed the premonition that it is not going to be bode well.

But I still didn't expect Iran to suffer that badly.

 

[OldTwilight]

They were involved and approved it weeks ago. Iranian government and regime is done if they don't respond disproportionately. They need to react crazily. Otherwise they'll suffer
fate of Hezbollah.

Die trying. Don't just die.

Khamenei is not man of war

 

[Immortals]

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Oh boy….

Where are “everything is awesome crowd” now? Where is @jauk @Tijani ? Where did they go? Back to their Israeli server farm?

 

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holy shit

 

[Salza]

Iran has been fighting Israel/West for decades , at great cost to itself. That takes courage at a minimum. India isnt as advanced as Israel/West and is right next door. There isnt really a comparison to what Iran faces versus what we face.

That's the problem for you kids. Iran used to fight Israel through its proxies, not one on one like today else Israel would had decimated them like Egypt Syrian long time back. Iranian proxies game has been over now so it's time for Iran to face the music and on their own mainland.

Iran has been over confident about their military capabilities which clearly lacks modernization. They should had backed out proxy wars in 90s itself. Things would had been much better for them today. No economic restriction, and certainly no issues purchasing weapons of their liking. They always had so much oil, imagine they would had been competing Dubai, Doha, Jeddah today.

 

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Oh boy….

Where are “everything is awesome crowd now”? Where is @jauk @Tijani ? Where did they go? Back to their Israeli server farm?

bad time to be Araghchi right now

but he's not at fault for IRGC command sleeping in the same bed during war

 

[That_Guy]

Not airforce - defence systems.

Airforce cant do anything if fired missiles from long distance

They can shoot down the fighters attacking, which in itself is a deterrent.