Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

tower9 said:
Damn it really feels like Iran is giving up without a fight. There are many traitors working in its government and Israel struck hard and wiped out a lot of the leadership. Why is Iran so incompetent when it’s been facing incessant threat for years? This is depressing.
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Quite speechless, and I don't think that Iran is a weak country.

However, its leadership is hard to describe.
 
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first drones expected to arrive in Israeli airspace in 30-40 mins

US recently claimed it fully reloaded Iron Dome inventories

hopefully ballistic missiles follow soon
 
Persian Gulf said:
IRAN FIRES > 200 SHAHED DRONES TOWARDS ISRAEL IN FIRST STAGE OF RESPONSE

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Good thing they finally responded. But isn’t this repeating TP 1-2? Send shahed drones, followed by BMs. I think they are very well prepared for that
 
StormBreaker said:
“Opening strikes” - What a fuking war mongering reptilian zion bastard

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I don't blame Netanyahu at all!!!!! When Hezbollah was decapitated, when Assad fell, when Iranians retreated from Syria, when Netanyahu's man Trump came to power in the White House, why wouldn't Netanyahu take advantage of the winds in his sails??? As Scott Ritter said about 2-3 months ago, a LOT of planning by Israel and America was done against Iran for the right time and the right time came when all the above factors came to fruition. As much as I dislike Netanyahu, I had called him a 'visionary' leader of Israel in this forum's Gaza conflict months ago because he held his nerves when Gantz and Gallant were about folding in the horrible days of the Israel-Gaza war. Netanyahu KNEW that he just had to wait for a Trump Presidency!!!!
 
guangdongt said:
I think we need to consider what we should do if Israel and the United States control the entire Middle East. Currently, Central Asia is under the cross cooperation of Russia and China, and overall it is still stable. However, there have been many terrorist infiltrations. If the Middle East fails, it will directly endanger Central Asia. Pakistan in South Asia will also be in a more dangerous situation, and India will collude with Israel to lobby the United States.
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From a strategic perspective, China's best strategy is to “allow Israel and the United States to control the entire Middle East.”

I know this sounds cruel, but it is indeed the most advantageous strategy for China.

Israel/the United States has fundamental, irreconcilable cultural conflicts with the entire Middle East region. They can destroy the armies and governments of Middle Eastern countries, but they cannot eliminate all the people of the Middle East. If Israel/the United States were to completely control the entire Middle East region, they would be completely bogged down in an endless people's war. The U.S. war in Afghanistan is a classic example.

Of course, during this period, China can moderately provide some support to intensify the confrontation between the two sides. But China does not need to directly intervene.

Instead, China can continue to develop its national strength and military power. At the appropriate time, it can use both economic and military power to directly target the United States.
 
StormBreaker said:
And Pakistan will inherit the Iran sanctions as well as the frozen foreign reserves.

An indigenous, well capable defence production industry of iran.
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Iranian "capable" Defence industry is filled with vaporware half of the shit they claim to have in production either doesn't exist or are nothing more then one off designs that they have no real way to mass produce.
 
In TP1 US, NATO, IDF, and Jordan were intercepting these and claimed to shot them all down.

Yet the Israeli Red Alert was blowing up for 30 minutes straight despite them having claiming to have shot down 99% of the drones.

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Persian Gulf said:
IRAN FIRES > 200 SHAHED DRONES TOWARDS ISRAEL IN FIRST STAGE OF RESPONSE

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How difficult is to shoot down these crying defenseless birds? In any case, one fighter jet can cause more damage to the enemy just in one sortie than what may be a thousand of these flying rickshaws can do.
 
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But that's just one drone. We don't know if it's from today.
Where did you get the 200 figure from?
 
Michael said:
From a strategic perspective, China's best strategy is to “allow Israel and the United States to control the entire Middle East.”

I know this sounds cruel, but it is indeed the most advantageous strategy for China.

Israel/the United States has fundamental, irreconcilable cultural conflicts with the entire Middle East region. They can destroy the armies and governments of Middle Eastern countries, but they cannot eliminate all the people of the Middle East. If Israel/the United States were to completely control the entire Middle East region, they would be completely bogged down in an endless people's war. The U.S. war in Afghanistan is a classic example.

Of course, during this period, China can moderately provide some support to intensify the confrontation between the two sides. But China does not need to directly intervene.

Instead, China can continue to develop its national strength and military power. At the appropriate time, it can use both economic and military power to directly target the United States.
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Israel will surely drag the US back into ME again, even Trump's only desire is to fight China for global dominance.
 
Call me naive or nostalgic. I can recall Iran during the Shah's time. What a militarily strong country she was at that time! The Iranian AF was the most modern amongst the Muslim countries. I can still remember the picture of the Shah in a pilots dress in front of a Tomcat....
 
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