Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Ali_Baba said:
This was a strategic mistake for sure, the "mother of all mistakes" - I hope they have learnt their lesson. Russia has proven to be an unreliable ally to Iran. Iran should look to mend fences with China and bury their arrogance and recapitalise their air force.
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In 1990s PAF determined to advance on two fronts one was acquisition of BVR and AWAC

Post 2019 the focus went into gathering high level of situational awareness as they didn’t want to be caught like the sneak attack by IAF on balakot.

In 2025.. they were ready .. they knew exactly what the Indians were up making their strikes in effective.

A counter strike by PAF sufficient to force India to a cease fire. PAF achieved a tactical and strategic deterrence ie IAF planes grounded - tactical and forced India to a cease fire after PAF strike - strategic



Iran cannot force Israel to a ceasefire. They cannot use their airforce to strike israel and achieve a strategic deterrent. Their missiles will annoy Israel but not defeat it
 
Cash gk said:
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If and when America gets to know that siding with Israel may hurt it in the long run, the first entity to runaway will be the US.
 
Bratva said:
Brotherly countries were not winning and dinning with India when india was attacking and killing us. Big satan is not blocking our water, it is our immediate neighbors. Remember what Iran said yesterday? Whoever support Israel will be considered an enemy of Iran.

What Iran was doing at that time was supporting our enemy with money to wage war against us. Let's not pretend, where everyone stands and whose the real supporter of Pakistan.
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again, the brotherly countries also provide money to India. one representative was even in PAksitan to stop us from retaliating.

Lets get one thing straight: this support for iran is not out of any love for iran. iran should be dealt with when it goes against our interest. look up my history on this forum and the past one. i am very much against iran and its agents here in Pakistan. the support is only because they are currently fighting israel. simple as that. israel was, is and will remain the greater evil.

btw, even though israel is not stopping any water to us, they are actively supporting the ones who are. they are the ones controlling the country that continuously places sanctions on our companies and bans on military hardware.
 
Falcon26 said:
95% will definitely be shot down. This is the era of hypersonics not prehistoric ballistic missiles. The crippling of saddam’s scuds in the first gulf war should have taught Pakistan and Iran a lesson. Instead they doubled down with ballistics.
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Ballistic still has its usefulness and purpose. Besides Iran needs to clear the stockpiles and the zionist West has so graciously offered to take them off our hands! Who are we to niggardly refuse such a kind offer? As Trump stated when we got the 400 million dollar plane. We would be stupid to refuse!
In the meantime Iran has shifted focus to other missile with more complicated trajectories.
 
StormBreaker said:
Woahhh

This is big!!!

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Many indians celebrated iran attack by israel. No doubt the visas issued to indians caused iran so much damage.

Most of mossad agents that disabled air defences were not israeli but from inside iran.
 
Pradotlc said:
In 1990s PAF determined to advance on two fronts one was acquisition of BVR and AWAC

Post 2019 the focus went into gathering high level of situational awareness as they didn’t want to be caught like the sneak attack by IAF on balakot.

In 2025.. they were ready .. they knew exactly what the Indians were up making their strikes in effective.

A counter strike by PAF sufficient to force India to a cease fire. PAF achieved a tactical and strategic deterrence ie IAF planes grounded - tactical and forced India to a cease fire after PAF strike - strategic



Iran cannot force Israel to a ceasefire. They cannot use their airforce to strike israel and achieve a strategic deterrent. Their missiles will annoy Israel but not defeat it
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yes, but consistent strikes, with severed systems will make them kneel down.

once AD is system, whole system will be open even to small CMs!
 
PakSword said:
If and when America gets to know that siding with Israel may hurt it in the long run, the first entity to runaway will be the US.
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But it wont stop them dropping several tonnage of ordinance before leaving the arena.
 
Bratva said:
lets not get overboard in Mullah support here, shall we? UAE doesnot make deal with Israel or india on the same day when India or Israel is attacking muslim countries.

Iran does that, so fellow pakistani who saw Iran foreign minister making trade and economic deals on 8th may with India while India was attacking Pakistan economic hubs, they will make rabid comments about Iran situation as well.

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yea, the timing is unfortunate. but not my words.
our Arab brothers to take the Indian beating quietly.

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alphapak said:
Its Egypt and Türkiye next, they want India to lead against Pak but we seen what happened last month.

They will keep planning and send India again, the day India succeeds then they will come from behind to finish you off in one go.

They will not be like Pakistan get tired after shooting 2 jets down and running around for peace talks, showing restraint or ceasefire.
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This is why I have said this numerous times. Pakistan needs to prepare to the fullest. These are all learning moments. The Zionist bastards and her Western supporters want total control. They have no qualms in occupying and killing to achieve their goals.

The moment the West cries about the Pakistani defence budget and capabilities, one should know that we are doing good.
 
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Pradotlc said:
In 1990s PAF determined to advance on two fronts one was acquisition of BVR and AWAC

Post 2019 the focus went into gathering high level of situational awareness as they didn’t want to be caught like the sneak attack by IAF on balakot.

In 2025.. they were ready .. they knew exactly what the Indians were up making their strikes in effective.

A counter strike by PAF sufficient to force India to a cease fire. PAF achieved a tactical and strategic deterrence ie IAF planes grounded - tactical and forced India to a cease fire after PAF strike - strategic



Iran cannot force Israel to a ceasefire. They cannot use their airforce to strike israel and achieve a strategic deterrent. Their missiles will annoy Israel but not defeat it
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And that's the Israeli strategy, they can create the perception they are under an existential threat, and then rope the usa in.

It has always been the plan

Invariably, there is no option where Iran will not be outmatched if the USA and Israel pursue that course of full military force, therefore the strategy has to be of using other tools and also knowing that there will be losses
 
Cash gk said:
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Iran will target Diego Garcia in under 10 minutes if these guys even half ass try going thru da motions.
 
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