Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[abdulbarijan]

I'm no professional nor a researcher but this is just my honest opinion as someone whose been on this forum for about 10 odd years.

1- Iran needs MASSIVE strikes in to Israel, preferably their airbases and their nuclear installations. The Israeli action from the outset was extremely decisive, and even went for Iran's nuclear installations.
There is no point of worrying about any escalation ladder here, if Iran doesn't answer, its game over. Those who want Iran to capitulate, are quite ignorant for these (US/West) are the same people that were on the table negotiating before you got struck! These are the same people that tore up a nuclear deal that you were following to a T. Anyone whose made deal with these people (USA/west) from a position of weakness has been royally screwed.

2- Been hearing alot about the huge stockpiles of missiles, well -- time to use them. I mean do the Iranians have an option here? unless getting your territory violated on the daily is on the cards? If this is an Israeli victory, and the way its going .. it seems that way, you might wanna think there is another, a super power whose politicians have openly expressed their wish to go to war with you guys. Like do you not see where you're headed?

3- The only way I see for Iran to even get a breather to regroup a little, is if they are able to thwart the air superiority Israel has developed over Iranian skies. The Iranian airforce isn't capable enough to accomplish that and the only capability that has a realistic chance is their offensive capability in terms of their missiles. Its clearly now or never!

 

[Persian Gulf]

Seeing some reports the US will join Israel in striking Iran tonight. Still very unconfirmed

then it means big joint raid on Fordow. but I doubt US direct involvement very much, what's the benefit to the US?

 

[SolarWarden]

Do you. Not understand the concept of many, or drop tanks, or going back and forth?

And you still haven't shown me where I supposedly lied, so yeah, you did back off.

Finally, I didn't give myself the title, it was given to me by the forum.

Not lie I am fool but your BS post! I didn't lie I gave an opinion because Israel is not going to use its whole fleet of 25 F-15I in a first wave. The vast majority of IAF first strike wave were F-16's and they don't have the range to strike inside Iran even fully loaded with gas. There's something called drag and weight that uses a ton of fuel on fighters. Betcha you didn't think of that, eh? Of course you didn't.

Five tankers are not going to top off almost a hundred fighters no effing way! You just want to be right but instead you make yourself look clueless. That is why in my OPINION IAF likely used an airbase inside eastern Syria. That's my opinion you don't have to like it just like your "think tank consultant" tittle is your opinion of what you think you are.

 

[Avicenna]

Its doctored. Completely missed a segment. He said if a Taliban Govt (TTP) ever came in power in Pakistan that would be a danger to israel

Please think beyond what you just typed.

 

[brazensword]

Seems too quiet from Iran, but Israel is pounding many areas in Iran right now.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Not lie I am fool but your BS post! I didn't lie I gave an opinion because Israel is not going to use its whole fleet of 25 F-15I in a first wave. The vast majority of IAF first strike wave were F-16's and they don't have the range to strike inside Iran even fully loaded with gas. There's something called drag and weight that uses a ton of fuel on fighters. Betcha you didn't think of that, eh? Of course you didn't.

Five tankers are not going to top off almost a hundred fighters no effing way! You just want to be right but instead you make yourself look clueless. That is why in my OPINION IAF likely used an airbase inside eastern Syria. That's my opinion you don't have to like it just like your "think tank consultant" tittle is your opinion of what you think you are.

come on guys please leave it here and move on

 

[PakAl]

I tend to agree with you. The mullah regime has led Iran to destruction and it's probably better that they go away. The best outcome at this point is if Iranian nationalists take over. Better than the Zionist puppet Pahlavis.

However, it would be nice if Iran does a 2,000 missile barrage on the entity first. Inflict crippling damage on it so that it quitens down for a few years.

I think they are scared. Israel made it clear if Iran harms Israeli greatly then Israel will destroy everything in Iran, some news are claiming Nato is coming aswell. The firepower will be devastating for Iran with no reply. Remember the GCC and Israelis always wanted Iran to be attacked and their wish has been granted.

Now is the best time if China Russia agree to mediate, give gurantees Iran will sign agreements to not make bomb, disarm, and new government will come to power who will be friendly towards everyone, a government that stays out of middleeast and leaves it to GCC Israel and USA.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Their own Govt has moved underground below a hospital,

Precautions, nothing else. Something Iran could do with learning....

CNN is Quoting Israel has failed strategically,

Results speak for themselves, Iran has been hit hard and set back by a decade at least.

9 of their neighborhoods are destroyed,

This is chicken feed. $10-20million to fix?

Mossad HQ has been moved under a hospital too, after it was destroyed

Precautions, nothing else. Noting destroyed. Something Iran could do with learning....

and Fox News reporter thrown out for trying to report on it.

Yes, saw that, a building within a complex hit.

Palestinians and Yemenis and Iranians are celebrating. But some wannabe Israeli fanboys will never believe that Israel can Fail.

So far, Israel has not failed.. even Gaza.. not a failure. People of that locked hellhole knocked back for 20-30 years to rebuild if they are allowed to stay there. Yes, kamas still there, but defeating them was never the objective. That was the means by which they could achieve their goal of "mowing the lawn".

Understandable as its the same lot who were saying Pakistan had failed last month,

Pakistan succeeded the first night, had issues for nights 2 and 3 until India started hitting airbases which prompted a response. Was the nights after the first one a failure. Yes. Did Pakistan "finally" end the whole episode on a failure, no ! Are there lessons to learn, absolutely yes.

until Modi got his utter humliation and started getting slapped around at the hands of Field Marsha. Asim Munir.

Modi was due a failure, but it wasn't Field Marshal who slapped Modi around, it was the PAF and the combined armed forces of Pakistan. Munir was part of the problem for his poor decision making. "Awarding" him "FM" was an attempt by him to manage the view of his "personal failure that the rest of the armed forces had to bail Munir out of .."

 

[brazensword]

Seeing some reports the US will join Israel in striking Iran tonight. Still very unconfirmed

Whats your child kill count?

 

[ShapurII]

North Korea and Russia have already formed an alliance, and I think you should think about how Iran can help Russia by providing a large number of drones. Instead of complaining wildly about China here. Previously, China provided J10A, but you didn't like it. What's the point of talking incessantly here now? Is any air force weapon built overnight? Your government's wrong choice is not for us to pay the price.

I wasn't talking about China even though the Chinese that kept attacking us for "not believing in them" but I ignored it. But this dude personally quoted me and said a lot of baseless nonsense. So, I just wanted him to learn why Iran stopped thinking of China as a reliable partner. There's a history behind it. It didn't happen overnight. Not only we thought of China as our main ally up to 2006, but we signed huge deals with the Chinese companies. It was China's failure to secure Iran's interests that changed this.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Seeing some reports the US will join Israel in striking Iran tonight. Still very unconfirmed

utterly shameful, ghastly and disgusting

 

[r3alist]

then it means big joint raid on Fordow. but I doubt US direct involvement very much, what's the benefit to the US?

Perhaps a quick end, where Israel can state the objective of setting back the nuclear program has been achieved

 

[Aziqbal]

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Nothing happens in a vacuum.

You can't seriously think this will stop if/when Iran regime falls.

Pakistan has advanced jamming and code breaking capability

it has surveillance and eavesdropping capability

Pakistan has access to advanced very advanced Chinese weaponry

Pakistan can seriously help Iran in many areas

 

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Nothing happens in a vacuum.

You can't seriously think this will stop if/when Iran regime falls.

If Iran stands, Pakistan's nuclear assets are protected. Pakistan needs to set up a new regional alliance with Turkey and Iran. It is a bitter truth that some of our friends don't like it, China arming Pakistan to protect its regional interests. Otherwise, Iran has more trade with China than Pakistan.

 

[RescueRanger]