Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

A no-fly zone might risk them coming into conflict with Israeli air force, and that's not something Pakistan can afford right now. A direct areal-conflict with Israel is not something that would end well for Pakistan, considering Israeli F-35i.

To the contrary it will keep them west and not come east. Yahu focus is Iran not starting a war with Turkey or Pak. The risk would be too great to play that poker. But I understand it works both ways.

 

[That_Guy]

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Wouldn’t surprise me if the US conducts strikes on nuclear facilities

Wouldn't help. The US wouldn't be able to do more than what Israel has achieved.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I've been advocating for something, but I don't see it coming, and if the Iranian regime's oil industry is battered, with no economy, people will rise.

Many are also dismissing the threat Pakistan faces. I hope they don't have limped faces when the time comes.

The Arabs will do nothing because they can do nothing. They don't realize their approach to foreign policy will destroy them down the road; they removed all competition against their rival with their own hands and petty politics.

for the first time I feel sorry for GCC countries, they are American hostages. I used to hate their guts but they got no choice. they have no power. the western toys parked in their country will be snatched by the Americans deployed in their country.
All they have is some personal bodyguards armed with small arms and god knows how many of them are Mossad, CIA and MI6 operatives.

 

[FuturePAF]

We need new laws mandating every manufacturing company to start production of drones and missiles

Iran has to find a way to de-escalate this episode so it can shift to this strategy. Russia and China have to be brought in, diplomatically, to get fighting to stop.

 

[KingQamaR]

Nothing makes sense if we go on face value, if you look at the constants then Israel effectively is the only one


Trump has also clearly said Iran cannot have the bomb, okay so he is in favor of the nuclear capability being taken out, but not a prolonged war....

God forbid, but should things escalate more and Iran feels like it needs to meddle with the straights of hormuz, then of course global markets will crash and I really don't think trump wants the internal pressure that will come from this

So his optimal outcome will be degrade the nukes, stop the war

The problem might be, Israel might sense regime change opportunity

That's my best guess

You talking about the same US navy which kneeled against the Houthi’s?

 

[r3alist]

Israel is locked in now, no amount of diplomacy will stop them, not even the US. Israel won't trust China and Russia's word on this, they will want it fool proof by blowing it up themselves.

Besides I don't even think it is because of nuclear weapons they're doing this, nuclear weapons is just an excuse. They dare to do this precisely because they know Iran don't have nuclear weapons and is not even close to assembly. Otherwise they will just be forcing Iran's hand to accelerate nuclear works, which is foolish.

They want to destroy Iran, simple as that

Yes, exactly this.

From Israel's perspective, Iran has said some very strong things, and precisely because Iran had an arc of influence to then take out the metaphorical mothership, would would give the message that Israel is the clear regional hegemon

The Israeli thinking is clear that they believe they are in a moment in their Jewish history that they must act decisively and ruthlessly, so I believe they are taking this opportunity and then dealing with the costs later on

Remember the winners write history anyway

 

[Falcon29]

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[Persian Gulf]

To destroy the underground facilities at Natanz and Fordow, perhaps?
Or to finish the regime change?

Israel itself cannot have boots on the ground, except for a bunch of commandos and special forces. If they want boots on the ground, it makes sense for the US to get involved.

If US joins we are really finished

but at least we should inflict some blows on them and go down fighting

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

1. Pakistan is in no shape to help iran overtly against israel, we are in the midst of our own survival fight against a rabid behemoth of a neighbour whos every breath utters pakistans destruction. Although the recent skirmish showed us in good light in the air dept, their were many areas we need to plug holes. We have our own issues with a country with 10 times the resources of israel.

2. Financially pakistan in no position to extend support especially as they are being drip fed from IMF/World Bank.

3. Even if pakistan could support, its not a simple case of moving your air assets across to iranian bases and taking on israeli air force in a dog fight, pakistan would need to uproot and move the whole apparatus of air defence and logistics to another country. This is just not possible.

4. The levels of incompetence shown by Irans defence forces is mind boggling, the level of planning needed to anticipate such a scenario and how this wasnt war-gamed to death beggars belief. One wonders what mullahs/IRGV have actually been doing for the past 20+ years.

5. Large stale destruction is inevitable for Iran, With how compromised they are internally with the traitors within their midst, we dont really know how bad it really is.

But as they say if your going down, take the enemy down with you…..this is a fight to the death, rain hell on tel aviv, make the cost of continuation of this destruction unbearable for the enemy. No **** footing around, its the only language they know.

Its too late to look around for china and russia or pakistan, Iranian people are galvanised. You are a great nation. Israel is a blip in history.

InshaAllah Iran will prevail.

 

[FuturePAF]

for the first time I feel sorry for GCC countries, they are American hostages. I used to hate their guts but they got no choice. they have no power. the western toys parked in their country will be snatched by the Americans deployed in their country.
All they have is some personal bodyguards armed with small arms and god knows how many of them are Mossad, CIA and MI6 operatives.

They should consider the J-35A (with veteran Pakistani pilots) and other systems so they can have options.

 

[RescueRanger]

As per the KITAP, the Jewish folks are destined to steal from others....

O/T my nani's house in Lahore belonged to the last Jewish family in Pakistan the Kahan's.

They arrived in Pakistan during the start of the second world war fleeing Hitler and Nazis in Poland and settled in Lahore, they stayed in Pakistan till the 1970's when the Arab-Israel war broke out, that is when the left Pakistan for America.

She was inovited to Pakistan on the invitation of an historic archive project with the govt of Pakistan in 2007, we gave her a tour of the quater where her bedroom used to be as a child.

I have studied Jewish people and culture, the problem isn't Jews per say it's zionists. Judaism is just another religion. The problem is the rabid single mindedness and fanatical beliefs of zionists.

Zionists and their entire raison d'etre is toxic.

 

[Arash]

Israel Is more and more shifting to agression against civilians, I thin tonight they'll use forbidden weapons and tactics. Anyway, Iran should strike Dimona and Hugh value shitraeli assets if so. And please don't let further drone teams infiltrate !

 

[Maea]

Any summery of the action today?
Anything new?

 

[LeGenD]

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[Irfan Baloch]

This again? Yikes

wanted to see some CGI effort to show something resembling a downed jet but all the evidence is in the text.