Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

OldTwilight said:
ICBM is necessary, we should have Washington and USA under our thumb ....




USA admits , they were planning it from the start .... those useless reformist were fooled ( if they are not fool
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Iran has pseudo ICBMS. There are contingencies for every imaginary scenario. I pray it never comes to that. Even one single death of an innocent Iranian is horrible enough.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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I am repeating myself from time to time that their casualties and losses are very "creative" interpreted, so no one could definitely figure out how they could be 10 and 100 in the same time.... dead immediately, dead after medical service attempt, not dead but barely alive, alive but terminal invalid, alive but useless anymore....
All different category of losses...
Although, in my opinion lying and misleading is wrong approach to this matter....
 
Persian Gulf said:
no more waves today? :(
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No waves from anybody. Looks like the IAF fleet is down for maintenance after high rate of use. Likely half of the strike fleet is down with the rest meant for Combat air patrol and emergency strikes on Lebanon if that ignites.
 
I can't help but think that if we had responded to Israel like last night in TP1, none of this would've ever happened. Probably thousands of people in Gaza would've been saved too.
 
Persian Gulf said:
we only used 80-100 missiles today and < 200 yesterday. the success rate even yesterday was high (30-35%) and today even higher, even on the very first days and the fact we are mostly targeting Tel Aviv and major cities

we can sustain 80-100 launches per day for a long time. that one hit in Tel Aviv today probably caused 300+ casualties. don't think Israel wants to take many more of those.

and Israel hasn't been flying over Iran for a while. even when they did we still launched these missiles from Tehran under their noses (supposedly). and their sortie rates are dropping. once we dig out the entrances to Imam Ali and Khorramabad and Kermanshah bases then we have many more options.
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We need the missile bases in the west to be re opened. Even if they fired from silos only. I’m surprised iran did not build secret human tunnels to send in small squads to at least use the silos in raids. That means we could at least get 50 missiles from our western bases alone.

I find it hard to believe we are firing 30-50 missiles per salvo and our western bases have been brought online.

It’s possible Iran doesn’t want to risk any more than that amount per salvo to not tip off israeli intelligence.
 
ShapurII said:
China needs to do the same. Nobody in Iran can trust China when all that China ever thinks about is money and .1% more economic growth. The Russians have the same problem with you.
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True, sometimes China concerns too much about its economies, which gives those reformists a lot of breathing room.

Right now, the old world order is collapsing, and before the rising of the new world order, the world economy isn't going to be any better.

Right now, improving economy shouldn't be our primary concern anymore, as long as people can have their bread/butter to survive should be enough.
 
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Falcon29 said:
Edy Cohen 🤣

The Iranian regime commits a massacre in Bat Yam. 4 martyrs, 200 wounded, and more than 35 missing.

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وات د فاک؟ ۴ شهداء؟​
A zionist can be shaheed? lol
 
1) Immigration. 60 million foreign born people moved to the us in the last 30 years, plus another 20mil illegals. This was possible due to their policies, decisions and inactions. Today they have a massive problem they created.

2)China. The US built China up by investing starting in 1979, then supporting WTO membership. Today China is a peer competitor, US is repositioning to counter China which they through their policies strengthened and enabled them to become powerful as they are today. Created their own problem which may turn out to be existential.

3) Iraq, still noone knows why they invaded (we know bc of israel), but it opened the flood gates to destabilization, isis, Iranian influence whom they are today fighting a hybrid war against, lost trillions, thousands of lives, tens of thousands injured. Noone was held accountable, shows the corruption. Again entered with no clear plan.

4) Afghanistan, military loss, changed nothing only spent trillion bucks and lives. No clear plan or exit strategy.

5) 2008 financial crisis, own making due to bad laws, corruption in government (they call it lobbying), etc. US after that never recovered and the printing machine went crazy.

This is just some recent short sighted stuff. You see, every schmuck in us government wants to make a name of themselves, start an agency, or something, do a war, stop a war, do this do that … all for self gain without national strategy considered. This is why you have 50 intel agencies, mainly bc every schmuck wanted to create their own, get a budget and leave a legacy, not actually for the good of the country. If anything this bureaucracy creates confusion.

So on and so on. This is why the us cannot be taken seriously, they are like a teenager with an unlimited credit card. They are even destroying their alliances they created after ww2.
 
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ShapurII said:
China needs to do the same. Nobody in Iran can trust China when all that China ever thinks about is money and .1% more economic growth. The Russians have the same problem with you.
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China needs to think strategically.

It's not about helping Iran; it's about weakening US/Europe influence in Middle East.
 
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