Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I would make the distinction between being psychologically used to missiles and war versus a change in your material conditions oflf basic living
Furthermore, Israel has always been used to rockets at least, has always been used to war, and everyone serves the idf
Rockets vs the very destructive missiles. When was the last time the shiny, glittery Tel Aviv looked this?? And this has just started. IF China decides to supply Iran large quantities of missiles then that would be a game changer in this conflict and I don't see how, short of American carpet bombing or Israelis using nukes, Israel can come out ahead from this conflict. When the Ukraine war started, Americans had aggressively ensured that China wouldn't militarily help Russia a lot and I believe China had mostly complied then. China is a game changer now in any conflict due to its massive production capabilities AND able to withstand considerable Western pressure.
I know you cite the people that have moved away from the war zone, brain drain.... but what about the people who are still there and have no other option but to remain in Israel? They will in fact struggle and ensure.

Of course millions of Israelis are still going to stay and I am hoping those who'd stay would force the Israeli state to come to a reasonable compromise with the Palestinians and end this festering conflict.
 
In case anyone wonders why missile attack aftermath videos of people from Israel look so dramatic


Surah Al-Baqarah (2:96):
“And you will surely find them the most greedy of people for life – [even] more than those who associate others with Allah. One of them wishes that he could be granted life a thousand years, but it would not remove him in the least from the [coming] punishment that he should be granted a long life. And Allah is Seeing of what they do.”

(Arabic:
وَلَتَجِدَنَّهُمْ أَحْرَصَ النَّاسِ عَلَىٰ حَيَاةٍ وَمِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا۟ ۚ يَوَدُّ أَحَدُهُمْ لَوْ يُعَمَّرُ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍۢ ۖ وَمَا هُوَ بِمُزَحْزِحِهِۦ مِنَ ٱلْعَذَابِ أَن يُعَمَّرَ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ بَصِيرٌۢ بِمَا يَعْمَلُونَ)
 
Possible Chinese resupply to Iran?
Chinese cargo aircraft rapidly descending while approaching Iran.... Though with its official destination, it should be flying due west through already established air corridors.

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Great to see.

I hope we support Iran to the best of our abilities. We've grown old watching the white man oppress our nations.
 
Unfortunately, no Arab eyes have been opened.
not to flog a dead horse, they exactly know what it entails and their eyes are open

Therefore, it's completely the wrong question to ask why are the GCC not seeing what Pak does, the question is when will pak adjust to the GCC thinking and approach?

I remember a while ago the Indian army chief or one of them, even commented that serious Saudi and Indian military cooperation is inevitable once economic ties reach a certain point

The GCC don't seem to care what Pakistan sees, and they have no intention to listen to Pakistan, clearly doing the opposite!
 
Possible Chinese resupply to Iran?
Chinese cargo aircraft rapidly descending while approaching Iran.... Though with its official destination, it should be flying due west through already established air corridors.

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VERY GOOD CHINA

this is where China is important

advanced high value electronics for missiles and communication equipment

they also resupplied Russia like this
 
During the UN session, Israel's representative raised the question that Iran is lobbing ballistic missiles which can carry nuclear warheads.

The question arises if these Iranian missiles are in fact capable of carrying nuclear arsenal and the armaments used by Israel likewise?

Pakistan was recently bombarded with BrahMos, an actual nuclear capable missiles but no one cared outside Trump. If this is how world conscience works that some lives are more important than others, then let's just screw everything up for good.
 
I don't know if any of our Iranian members have suggested why Iran turned a generous blind eye to Israeli and Indian cooperation, as well as everything we know about modi and Muslims, believing that they would be safe?

Remembering also, India ditched Iranian oil on the say so of.....
Please ask yourselves those questions replace Israel with America and India with Pakistan. If the Americans wants to Invade Iran which major non- NATO ally has a chance of giving bases to them, India or Pakistan?
India ditched Iranian oil because we don't want to get sanctioned by the Americans, why don't you start buying a drop of Oil from Iran legally. So much Iran loving word salad from you guys but on ground just.... Nada....
 
I don't know why Iranians didn't see India's true face. But the Gaza war opened the Arab eyes about India's true face and hopefully Iranians know better about India now.
Sovereign relations are decided by rulers, not by public sentiment. Do you think the Arab rulers care about Palestinians any more than India does ?

Is a strong Iran that has nukes under the current regime in the interest of the Arab ruling elite ? While India has a defence relationship with Israel, they are the ones who would prefer that Iran stay independent of both the US and Chinese camps - not out of any sympathy for Iran, but because it suits their interest. India wants strategic autonomy, so a multipolar world with strong and independent middle powers like Russia, Brazil, Iran , etc is their preferred outcome.
 
Please ask yourselves those questions replace Israel with America and India with Pakistan. If the Americans wants to Invade Iran which major non- NATO ally has a chance of giving bases to them, India or Pakistan?
India ditched Iranian oil because we don't want to get sanctioned by the Americans, why don't you start buying a drop of Oil from Iran legally. So much Iran loving word salad from you guys but on ground just.... Nada....
I don't really know what you are trying to say other than spin some odd equivalence, let's answer a direct question with the near impossible scenario of a ground invasion into Iran....ok


Doing a number of things totally legally in Pakistan is a working progress😁
 
Great to see.

I hope we support Iran to the best of our abilities. We've grown old watching the white man oppress our nations.
Well , giving some more Intel, keeping an aye on UK/India activity and keeping our eastern border is best thing you can do as now and we are thankful for it ...
 
Please ask yourselves those questions replace Israel with America and India with Pakistan. If the Americans wants to Invade Iran which major non- NATO ally has a chance of giving bases to them, India or Pakistan?
India ditched Iranian oil because we don't want to get sanctioned by the Americans, why don't you start buying a drop of Oil from Iran legally. So much Iran loving word salad from you guys but on ground just.... Nada....
I wont lie, you have a point iran has been not kind to us these past few years

Last year they bombed us for no reason and they have been actively supporting baloch militias

I wish we can complete the oil pipeline project but uncle sam wont like it
 
Well, Pakistani members discussing about ways which we can retaliate or helping us is heart warming for myself.

we should give time to our force to rest as well .

even I after 1 day of watching cellphone and reading news , get exhausted.

Idk how people in Iran feel, but in Pakistan if you recite Laillaha ilAllah and you are not causing us harm - you are our brother. The tie of Allah is stronger than the ties of even blood.

If we weren't consistently governed by cowards and corrupt - we would be much closer on a national level.

The people of Pakistan do not believe in sectarian or ethnic nonsense - these divisions are caused by those who benefit from them.
 

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