Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran President and FM begging for ceasefire and negotiations

Bibi says he’s not interested

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Iran still trying to escape a full on war

I am always of the opinion that politicians in power should have a mandatory person assigned to them that slaps them thrice, with a gut and nose punch every time they make any decision, right or wrong.
 
1971 was over 50 years ago. Under a totally different regime. A lot has changed since then.

Iranian and Pakistani relations are not as strong as you believe, and neither is the cost/benefit of getting into a war for the sake of Iran in any way worth it. I'm sorry but you're just wrong.

Pakistan is not going to allow any balkanisation attempt of Iran, like if the Balochis try to make a move, but it also won't fight the war for it. It's not Pakistans war and antagonises too many powers unnecessarily and it's not like it will be go any smoothly.


History is not made in the past, it is made in the present. Iran supported and helped Pakistanis in our previous wars. Islamabad has the duty to pay the depts.Things will spiral out of control if Iran falls for Pakistan. China and Pakistan must support Iran.And some Pakistanis must stop being afraid of the west. Otherwise, Say goodbye to Pakistani Baluchistan if Tehran falls and many more things KPK.
 
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WHAT THE F**K ... Seriously ! Did Iran reverse Engineer some UFO's weapons ? :ROFLMAO:
Kind of! Not only the US has it's skunk works! My brothers @Mr Iran Eye and @TP 3 4 5 6 Iran Yaman and I have been informing people for quite some time now but our brothers here at the thread just laughed. I don't see anyone laughing now and I've yet to get to current page. Keeping myself totally isolated from all media just to able to catch up!
Taking a break now. Need to shower. I stink! Fourth day of this is killing me! Later good people and haters!
 
Anyone here who thinks Pakistan will or should fight a war against the entire western war machine which Iran initiated alone, and its crippling economy and no clear military advantage is simply a fanboy.

It won't happen. Not Pakistan's war, very little benefit, and Pakistan possesses no magical weapon to change the tide. You are only asking for Pakistan to take self-destructive actions.
Rationalism and patriotism, and national pride are very different. So, they have all right to kill anyone at will.....Gaza .........
 
Iran President and FM begging for ceasefire and negotiations

Bibi says he’s not interested

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Iran still trying to escape a full on war

reformists are the west 5th columns , this wasn't things that West promised to them ...

They wanted IRI to gone and take power by themselves and become west lapdog , but their plan are falling apart , the military is not going to do what they thing is best ...

The nationalists will despite them even more
 
Something needs to be done about these systems.

Why won't China and Russia play a role? Why not provide intelligence on targets in Israel?
The US and UK have been supplying Israel day and night with large quantities of heavy ammunition and other military support in the planned conflict involving Iran. Israel has been well-armed, and if it begins to suffer significant losses, it is most likely that the US and European allies will intervene directly. Iran, on the other hand, cannot expect substantial international support—only limited aid or token diplomatic statements. If the world can turn a blind eye to the slaughter of men , women and children in Palestine they can do the same for Iran.

Iran should have shifted to a war economy earlier by allocating more of its oil revenues to the nuke, defense and weapons development. Whether this has happened will become clear based on how well Iran performs in the conflict.

Russia is tied down in Ukraine, limiting its ability to support Iran or challenge US actions in the Middle East. This was the main strategic goal of the Ukraine war. China is focused on its own regional tensions in the Pacific and its goal to unify Taiwan. The US empowering of Pacific countries is for this purpose.

Pakistan is under pressure from India and is amassing weapons to counter India, Turkey is economically tied to Europe and the carrot of eventual EU membership or concessions and is busy with it's installed puppet in Syria and the stabilisation. Egypt relies heavily on US aid and Sisi is happy with the $1 Billion a year, seems like the scent of the dollar is greater than the stench of murdered children from Palestine. The Gulf states like Saudi Arabia and the UAE have aligned their interests with long-term economic and political stability offered by the West and are happy to live the American dream of vast wealth and luxury (Not much of choice versus living a life in the desert and camels as Nomads).

At present, the US and its allies maintain strategic dominance across these key regions, limiting Iran’s external support and options. Iran is now fighting a war of survival, a war which will eventually reach into Pakistan. Pakistan better switch to a war economy where military projects have a higher priority over civilian ones, unfortunate as it will be.

Another Pentagon meticulously planned and executed operation that has the world on the back foot. Seems like the US has learnt a lot from the history of world empires as it grows its own. The world was fooled that WW1 and WW2 was to save it from Nazism of the day but it seems in reality it was a cover for future Nazism which we are seeing today. The Jews have finally stepped out their cover (from British and American colonialists) and now brazenly boast that the Sun will never set on the Jewish empire.
 
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This is bad. If Iran's launch capacity is dropping then it means the TEL launchers aren't enough.

3 missiles were launched only

There is no way this is intended at doing damage
 
If we can manage to dislodge India from Iran, it will solve the problem for Iran, Pakistan, and China. The Chinese will want to protect their investment or bulwark against the West.
My gut feeling is that all those spies that infiltrated and were recruited had heavy Indian hands, because other than that, there was no practical way for someone to bring in those drones and missiles, and with Indian control of the port, anything is possible.

Not the port, as that is barely functional. But Iranians allowing visa-free entry to Indians and India being a hotbed of Mossad agents would be the main reasons for Mossad to 'recruit' Indians for Israel. Spies are cheaper to buy anyway in poorer countries and especially in a country like India where there is considerable pro Israel sentiments. But WTH were the Iranians thinking when they trusted someone like India???!!! True, Pakistan has been an American 'ally' and true Pakistan got out of the Iran-Pakistan pipeline deal but Iranians must have figured out that Pakistan was simply doing many things to protect itself from India AND to protect Pakistan's vital commercial interests.

Pakistan is a country of a very large population and is too short on human and natural resources to support such a large population, especially considering a large powerful neighbor like India, backed by the West and Israel, is ready to pounce on Pakistan for the last 8 decades! Pakistan had no time F around! No room for mistakes!
 
Anyone here who thinks Pakistan will or should fight a war against the entire western war machine which Iran initiated alone, and its crippling economy and no clear military advantage is simply a fanboy.

It won't happen. Not Pakistan's war, very little benefit, and Pakistan possesses no magical weapon to change the tide. You are only asking for Pakistan to take self-destructive actions.
Nobody asked that, simply for Pakistan to help Iran. We know that could result in visa and travel bans to the Holy West and hence Iran should expect nothing from Pakistan.

For the record, Iran didnt initiate this war on West either. Read some history outside of whatever you have been imbibing from CNN/BBC for all your life.
 

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