Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Which 48 interceptors would be enough to stop a wave of F-35s? And at what cost?

Iran should have invested in an ADS instead.

The plane on its own Is not everything

It's different systems working together

So why did PAF beat the IAF recently????


Because different systems Pakistan has worked together to create a formidable force even in the face of a on paper better plane and airforce

Even against superior numbers of more Indian jets, India left the battlefield with 6 planes lost and the IAF was grounded


Multiple ground radars
Multiple AWACS to give Pakistan aerial awareness, knowledge of enemy assets and where they are
Multiple ground and aerial EW assets
Experienced pilots and our own program to make them elite
A BVR capable of hitting the enemy




if Iran could build up its airforce going forward, it could go for similar options to Pakistan

J10C with PL15
Possible 5th Gen platform in J35 in future
Possible KAAN if relationship with Turkey is on good terms
And possible JF17 to add numbers


As long as you create a interlinked range of systems Including A.D what you are doing is making a hostile territory where your enemy either can't operate or wasted fuel and time and thus is forced to return



In the current conflict even if Iran has 200 JF17s armed with PL15s
They could prove useful as long as you had backup support via AWACS, ground radars, A.D

As soon as F35s were detected, you could send up JF17s,
You could fire BVRs at maximum range ie 200km
At incoming enemy jets, those jets will then be forced to either divert, or take the BVRs out
Once again wasting time and fuel they don't have


Air battles are won through tactics as much as they are through the machine
 
We can take this discussion to another thread, and I believe there's one or more that already exists, but I seriously doubt that I'll indulge in this line of discussion. I'm concerned about what's happening with our Iranian friends and that's why I'm here to grasp all the updates that I can. I already spoke my mind on the topic. You more than welcome to carry on with the conspiracy theories.


Stop trolling, you are literally indulging the topic, no need to pretend like you're not, that's unproductive trolling

India distancing itself from the ScO position, and literally having a military allyship with Israel in wars is not a conspiracy theory, it's very recent truth


We know there are people who are sabotaging iran from within

We know also, India has been accused a few times to spy on behalf of Israel, as they are in other countries


Now again, I might be wrong on this, and I'm not exactly trying to discuss this as much as you make out, but I also might be right, and there's no way you can't say foreign Nations that perhaps might have sabotaged Iranian systems or tipped off on insider knowledge is not really significant
 
This damage control won’t work anymore! Peoples are not fools. wtf do they think that they can easily gaslight everyone ?
They just have to convince enough people, that's all. And yes, there are enough.

Not to intentionally derail, I frequently accuse the US MSM of being propagandists. Same thing. Just need to get enough people to believe.
 
No reports of missile launches yet despite claims from Iranian media

I think they are lying. It's psychological warfare.

Or maybe not lying since they launched drones now and will launch the missiles in a few hours.
 

Watch: Debris falls in Iranian state TV studio as Israel strikes Tehran​

BBC

We earlier brought you still pictures of the moment debris fell in an Iranian TV studio as Israeli air strikes hit Tehran.

The news anchor presenting at the time was seen live on air shortly after the incident.

We can now bring you the full clip from The Islamic Republic of Iran News Network:


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Media caption,
Moment debris falls in Iran state TV studio after Israeli strikes
 
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Among them is Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan .. Egypt and 19 countries confirm in a joint statement their rejection and condemnation of Israeli attacks against Iran as a violation of international law and the principles and purposes of the United Nations Charter

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Now, I do recognize that this is not a computer game; it is war. Lives are lost, and the repercussions are tangible. Nevertheless, I find the criteria for target selection perplexing to say the least.

From a strategic point of view; why are essential institutions not being targeted in line with the established objective of disrupting your opponent's economic operations? Isn't that Iran's goal? Why is the Central Bank of Israel and major financial institutions not a target? These are much more vital organs than oil refineries. It will disturb the ENTIRE economy immediately, literally crash all activities including the citizens ability to get access to their own bank accounts (and money). This would turn everyone in Israel against Netanyahu...

The target selection makes no sense in terms of waging war. The oil refinery is about the only proper target they have hit, most of the other stuff has been to copy Israel it seems.

Totally odd … difficult to fathom why. Almost as if their databases of targets have also been hacked by mossad and don’t actually contain high value targets because they were deleted …

I can’t think of any other reason? ( I can but I have said that 20 times so I won’t repeat them).
 
Iran's attacks completely shut down Israel's largest oil refinery - Haifa refinery has "been shut down" and "is no longer operational"

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Haifa refinery is twice as big as the next biggest refinery in Israel!

Massive economic blow!

@ShapurII

Double tap that site. Make sure it’s offline for months if not years.
 

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