SaadH
Elite Member
If you thought Iran was infiltrated, wait till you run into Pakistani ruling elites, civilian and military as well as bureaucrats and civil service workers. They will make Israeli infiltration of Iran look like a sunday picnic.
Lessons for Pakistan from the Israel/Iran conflict of June 2025
- Thread starter FuturePAF
- Start date
13 Assassins
Trusted Member
Israel is a brutal ravage diseased dog infected with rabies. It wont stop biting and attacking nations.
There is a very likely chance the mad dog will attempt to attack Pakistan.
There is a very likely chance the mad dog will attempt to attack Pakistan.
Distant_Observer
Trusted Member
This is the Indian who spread these rumours.
Last edited:
MirageV3ff
Registered Member
The blame goes to us to an extent. The state must focus on human development and listen to the grievances of those people. Make BLA unpopular not through a military but through humanity and goodwill
Distant_Observer
Trusted Member
Unless you have 5th gen stealth jets.
Path-Finder
Elite Member
The next indian attack will be after they have got their hands on the itinerary on their shopping list. once they have those items we will see the jingoistic soap opera start again.
I see comments about development, improving relations with and whatnot, bit late for that now. best be ready.
I see comments about development, improving relations with and whatnot, bit late for that now. best be ready.
RafaleSlayer
Registered Member
1. Focus on you main responsibility, stop meddling in politics and stop alienating your own people. There is nothing more dangerous than an alienated citizen, we already experienced that in East Pakistan and are so effing stupid to repeat that again in Baluchistan and KPK.
2. Be pro-active, take out the enemy war hawks in clandestine ops in peace time
3. Stop being a coward, when war is imposed upon you, its not going to go away by being meek or showing restraint. the only way to stop the war is to hurt the enemy real bad and keep hurting until the threat is eliminated for the next 100 years.
4. Have all the plans and backup plans ready, use your best and most devastating arsenal first, destroy enemies defensive and offensive capabilities in the first 48 hours.
5. Keep you key scientist, war fighter away from media, no need to show who they are and where they live.
6. Make your own phones in Pakistan with no tracking apps and with ability to spoof any tracking.
7. Masquerade their phone numbers.
8. change all existing phone numbers.
9. don't allow any cell phones in critical locations to be tracked.
10. all offensive (missile) capabilities on mobile launchers spread across the country, hidden in plane sight.
11. A lot of decoys for radars and missile launchers.
12. potent second strike undersea capability
13. redundant communication networks.
14. Deep underground command centers
15. Instructions and plans of action in case of communication breakdown to individual fighting unites.
16. Fight the war with "Use it or lose it" mentality, use best weapons first in huge numbers to penetrate/take out defenses
17. Assets stationed in bases in friendly countries.
18. invest in well armed sleeper cells in potential enemy countries
19. high level of intelligence in enemy countries regarding their HV assets and key political and military leadership
20. Ability to hit with devastating cyber attacks on any potential ally of the enemy if they come to support the aggressor
21. very long range hypersonic missiles to take out carriers/carrier groups that help the enemy in their air defenses or supplement their offensive capability
22. Attack/sabotage sources/storage of energy, water, gas, weapon production/ ports/airports
2. Be pro-active, take out the enemy war hawks in clandestine ops in peace time
3. Stop being a coward, when war is imposed upon you, its not going to go away by being meek or showing restraint. the only way to stop the war is to hurt the enemy real bad and keep hurting until the threat is eliminated for the next 100 years.
4. Have all the plans and backup plans ready, use your best and most devastating arsenal first, destroy enemies defensive and offensive capabilities in the first 48 hours.
5. Keep you key scientist, war fighter away from media, no need to show who they are and where they live.
6. Make your own phones in Pakistan with no tracking apps and with ability to spoof any tracking.
7. Masquerade their phone numbers.
8. change all existing phone numbers.
9. don't allow any cell phones in critical locations to be tracked.
10. all offensive (missile) capabilities on mobile launchers spread across the country, hidden in plane sight.
11. A lot of decoys for radars and missile launchers.
12. potent second strike undersea capability
13. redundant communication networks.
14. Deep underground command centers
15. Instructions and plans of action in case of communication breakdown to individual fighting unites.
16. Fight the war with "Use it or lose it" mentality, use best weapons first in huge numbers to penetrate/take out defenses
17. Assets stationed in bases in friendly countries.
18. invest in well armed sleeper cells in potential enemy countries
19. high level of intelligence in enemy countries regarding their HV assets and key political and military leadership
20. Ability to hit with devastating cyber attacks on any potential ally of the enemy if they come to support the aggressor
21. very long range hypersonic missiles to take out carriers/carrier groups that help the enemy in their air defenses or supplement their offensive capability
22. Attack/sabotage sources/storage of energy, water, gas, weapon production/ ports/airports
samejjangir
Registered Member
Cheap rockets will only fall on some farmland, forests and villages due to poor guidance. Also, India has BMD systems too & one can't just surprise India with first strike.
Watandar
Trusted Member
And on the other hand, you have tens of thousands of damaged families due heavy handed and foolish anti-terrorism policies in Baluchistan, KPK and Karachi, together with crushing poverty. It should be very easy to recruit agents in Pakistan.
Given the general chaos, lawlessness and undocumented economy, it should also be quite easy to run Ukraine or Mossad type operation to smuggle equipment into the country and then your agents use it for attacks.
codeforfood
Registered Member
Build an all around capability not just one dimension. The problem is that what you face as an adversary has a very stable supply chain. In our current condition we cannot match that.
Cookie Monster
Trusted Member
That's a good lesson...I fully agree. Used to debate Iranian members(the gloating types who used to badmouth Pakistan as a backward third world shit hole) about how they should build an airforce...
...and I used to get almost comical Indian types of replies...ranging from...
- Iranian F14s are super duper upgraded by Iran itself
- Iran is a drone superpower and that's the future of combat
- Iran has so many kamikaze drones and ballistic missiles that it can neutralize Israel's aircrafts on the ground before they even take off(or when they eventually land).
- Iran's air defense systems are amazing.
I'm less concerned about the tactics and strategy used in this conflict...I'm thinking more long term once this concludes...
The lesson I would like to point out for Pakistani members...
...if u look at the map... geographically from Israel all the way to Pakistan. It's Israel, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and then Pakistan.
Now generally I'm not the type of guy who yells "yahoodi saazish" if the wind blows a little too hard...
...but I do notice trends. The trend here...
we saw...how Syria was incapacitated throughout the decades...to the point where it is a non factor now(to Israel) militarily speaking.
Iraq used to be strong... militarily and economically...
...in that case too ...we saw what happened and where Iraq stands today...in a military capacity. At most it would pose a minor annoyance...if not outright a non factor like Syria.
...next major obstacle in line is Iran(efforts are underway to dismantle that obstacle by hook or by crook).
- Syria attempted to pursue nuclear weapons...
- Iraq attempted to pursue nuclear weapons...
- Libya attempted to pursue nuclear weapons...
...all these countries are non factors today.
- Egypt and GCC are also non factors...rich(and possibly strong)...but not much in the way of opposition.
..so if Iran...is to go the way of Syria...would it put Pakistan next on the hit list? What steps should Pakistan take for the long term?
...are we seeing it play out in front of our eyes...what Dr. Israr used to say in his lectures decades ago?(I can link those here but they are mostly in urdu). Please tag other members
@Oscar @Areesh @Avicenna
ahtan_china
Registered Member
Iran's weakness lies in the fact that it has no backers. In contrast, Pakistan immediately told India that it had backers and they were very strong.
India felt the power of Pakistan's backers on the first day of the war and immediately stopped the war! Iran just can't get any external help and is too weak.
As long as Iranian warplanes can fly over Tel Aviv and bomb Israel once, the Middle East will be peaceful immediately!
AZADPAKISTAN2009
Elite Member
Well planes are not needed since you can use missiles these days
The war has demonstrated you can still have impact with just missiles
The war has demonstrated you can still have impact with just missiles
gamaji
Registered Member
Most probably through Chabahar port. The Indian RAW effectively had the control of that port and Mossad is the strategic partner of RAW.
