Lessons for Pakistan from the Israel/Iran conflict of June 2025

[Path-Finder]

Another lesson:

Drone warfare only matter when two technologically backward airforces fight with each other.

Other wise cutting edge aircrafts along with MDO capabilities are unbeatable.

What? Drones changed the conduct of war, forever! The powerful get fingered by a smaller force when they deploy drones and take out their assets.

larger players can deploy various types of drones to achieve as many outcomes as they desire.

You are shooting in the dark.

 

[Toxic]

What? Drones changed the conduct of war, forever! The powerful get fingered by a smaller force when they deploy drones and take out their assets.

larger players can deploy various types of drones to achieve as many outcomes as they desire.

You are shooting in the dark.

Traditional Strike UCAV's are only useful once you have established complete air superiority like Israel has over Iran but otherwise are to vulnerable, but that will probably different with stealth drones like the kizelma, I think they should be considered to act as loyal wingmans for PAF's stealth fleet

 

[arjunk]

India doesn't care about excuses. India will build what it needs. India doesn't get anything from USA & USA has sanctioned all strategic missile & semiconductor related goods to India. India is developing things on its own.

That's just not true, the Indian economy is heavily dependent on the west. Otherwise, you would not obey the terms of Trump's ceasefire, while Pakistani drones flew over your cities during Modi's speech.

 

[samejjangir]

That's just not true, the Indian economy is heavily dependent on the west. Otherwise, you would not obey the terms of Trump's ceasefire, while Pakistani drones flew over your cities during Modi's speech.

Which Indian cities did Pakistani drones fly over? Also, India didn't talk with Trump. Trump only advised Pakistani military to have a ceasefire. It would be more sensible had you claimed that Saudi Arabia mediated the peace as India did talk to Saudi foreign minister about its intent and conditions towards Pak.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Biggest Lesson is that @Lulldapull is the biggest idiot
Dude called Air Force a joke and spread the propaganda that it's Iran that actually understands the war .Missiles & Drones alone can win you the war.
Dude's whole purpose on this forum is Irani Shattay Poshy.This should be clear to everyone now.
@Lulldapull bhai ab tu logon ka C# katna band kr de.

 

[arjunk]

Which Indian cities did Pakistani drones fly over? Also, India didn't talk with Trump. Trump only advised Pakistani military to have a ceasefire. It would be more sensible had you claimed that Saudi Arabia mediated the peace as India did talk to Saudi foreign minister about its intent and conditions towards Pak.

Initially there was only mostly Saudi pressure on Pakistan to tone down our response, but after our retaliation and preparation for escalation the Americans intervened and forced both countries into a ceasefire using threat of sanctions.

When Modi did what you are doing -- claiming that India did not talk to America, that ceasefire efforts were mostly by Pakistan -- Americans looked the other way as we sent drones over Jammu and other cities of western India.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Iran is a week away from falling.

We seem to be better prepared this time. COAS is in US and has been taken into confidence and most likely has been briefed on their future plans with Iran. Border is sealed shut.

There will be a sniffer plane above the skies but that is for their peace of mind just like they have given us peace of mind by inviting the COAS.

Once this is all over Pakistan can start building the pipeline on their side and we will get the oil and gas flowing at great rates. Iranians will prosper and so will we.

The only issue that will need resolving is the Baloch militancy but with 2 willing partners this time, this can be resolved quickly.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Iran is a week away from falling.

We seem to be better prepared this time. COAS is in US and has been taken into confidence and most likely has been briefed on their future plans with Iran. Border is sealed shut.

There will be a sniffer plane above the skies but that is for their peace of mind just like they have given us peace of mind by inviting the COAS.

Once this is all over Pakistan can start building the pipeline on their side and we will get the oil and gas flowing at great rates. Iranians will prosper and so will we.

The only issue that will need resolving is the Baloch militancy but with 2 willing partners this time, this can be resolved quickly.

Reasonable take i just hope iran itself doesnt destabalize


Iran has always harboured raw agents in its territory which actively involved themselves in destabalization of Balochistan, only now they started cracking down on em

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

That's just not true, the Indian economy is heavily dependent on the west. Otherwise, you would not obey the terms of Trump's ceasefire, while Pakistani drones flew over your cities during Modi's speech.

Pakistan on 12th sent drones to India after Modi tried to claim we begged for ceasefire in his pathetic pre recorded speech

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

From 04:00 .. the best lesson is to prevent his plan for Pakistan:

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[Distant_Observer]

Also need to start considering a 100KM no fly zone inside Iran on the border. This needs to be a redline for any "accidental" oversteps.

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[NationalistPKDude132]

From 04:00 .. the best lesson is to prevent his plan for Pakistan:

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Ok how many times does this need to be told

That video is Doctored!!!

Quote by Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu about Pakistan misrepresented

Viral snippet about Israeli premier talking about Pakistan is from an interview published online on 31 March 2011

www.sochfactcheck.com

 

[FuturePAF]

A definite lesson is to have a Modern Air Force, but not just one that can disperse and camouflage but can distract enemy forces so they can’t bring resources to bear to find your aircraft.

See the two F-14s destroyed compared to the small fleet of J-10s in the PAF. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

A definite lesson is to have a Modern Air Force, but not just one that can disperse and camouflage but can distract enemy forces so they can bring resources to bear to find your aircraft.

See the two F-14s destroyed compared to the small fleet of J-10s in the PAF. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

Its not just about fancy jets, its about having a good ecosystem and integerating jets with them this part PAF is really good in

Now we must focus on securing HQ-19 KJ 500 and obviously getting J-35 to deter Israel from doing funny stuff

Also we should fund our Intelligence Agency more

 

[Distant_Observer]

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