Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Maarkhoor]

So we might be seeing Pakistani bases or it's airspace to be used against Iran in exchange for the acceptance of Asim Munir as the new leader of Pakistan.

Don't spread rumors and lies.

 

[Sinan]

Turkey betrayed them.

How they can think like this, is beyond my comprehension ?

I saw many posts like this in this forum. Like, what do you exactly want us to do?

 

[Farhan23]

The United States will only carry out air strikes against Iran with NATO in the direction of Europe. They will not send ground troops to engage. They can't accept the loss.

Then they have lost the war before it even started.. Because strikes on Iran doesn´t really achieve other then setting back Iran´s military build up 10 years but not achieving de-nuclearization hence why I am suspicious of an incursion if not now then 2026 because they can´t put rangers or fly in paratroppers in there without an incursion but if no incursion comes then the US has conceded and Iran gets to have their way

 

[Forsvaret]

Israelis are finally tasting their own medicine:

 

[brazensword]

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Promised land eh. Run bitch, run!

 

[Shakehands]

Iranian News Agency: The facility targeted by the attack near Soroka Hospital houses thousands of soldiers, digital command systems, and cyber warfare operations.

Looks like they hit big!

 

[brazensword]

Iranian News Agency: The facility targeted by the attack near Soroka Hospital houses thousands of soldiers, digital command systems, and cyber warfare operations.

Looks like they hit big!

Good hit. They shouĺd target economic centres too. Intel FAB any one? Hello?

 

[r3alist]

What did you get out of dat shit-hole?

Yes mostly pain, and who else was offering services to uncle Sam to prop up the northern alliance? Very helpful to neighbours huh export the fight

iran not been shy to seek and get weapon support from Israel, work with the USA,so I have no idea why you need to do this comparison stuff, the world is more grey than black and white ...and you should know this

Iran's winnin no?.

Honestly no one should tempt fate, what has Iran defined a victory as? Isn't for most of the region a reasonable survival consider a win?

Get real man?

Trying

Excuse me? our entire nuke program is china supplied/ funded.

Saudi funded, north Koreans too helped

Did the Russians not steal American blueprints through spies? What's the point here I really don't know..... Once you have a significant program running, how you got there is only relevant for books, documentaries and articles

Iran nuclear programme is already likely set back

 

[StrategicBear]

The plan for this war was prepared long time ago.

The worst case scenario:

The West hopes to change regime in Iran, demilitarize and dismantle it.

Their plan:

1) Israel starts the war and decapitates Iranian leadership by killing top generals and key officials.

2) Israel absorbs most of Iranian ballistic missiles and after Iranian missile arsenal is exhausted US+UK+Germany+France+Italy enter the war.

4) Western coalition destroys Iranian civilian infrastructure, industry, government buildings with a huge bombing campaign that paralyzes Iran.

5) Western coaltion will then degrade Iranian military with a huge bombing campaign.

5) After Iranian leadership decapitated, infrastructure destroyed, governance dysfunctional, ballistic missile arsenal exhausted and military degraded, US will try to dismantle Iran. There can be a ground invasion from Azerbaijan and Iraqi-Kurdistan supported by US airpower.

Azerbaijan can invade from the north with 75.000 troops with support of American airpower and try to occupy Iranian Azerbaijan. To counter them in condition of full American air superiority Iran must deploy 150.000 troops to Iranian Azerbaijan.

Kurdish Peshmerga can invade Iranian Kurdistan with 160.000 troops with support of American airpower. To counter them Iran will tell Iraqi Shia militias to attack Iraqi Kurdistan and Iran needs 200.000 troops to contain Peshmerga assaults.

Also, yesterday Trump had a dinner with Pakistani Chief of the Army Staff Asir Munir - Americans may try to persuade Pakistan to occupy Baluchistan province of Iran when Iranian military is degraded by US airstrikes. But China may say to Pakistan not to do it.

If Azerbaijan successfully invades Northern Iran with support of US airpower, Iran will no longer be a Caucasian power and this will turn Turkey into a hegemon of the Caucasus and then this can threaten Russia's territorial integrity because Turks will then be able to influence Russian Muslim Caucasus - Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia. So Russia and Armenia might respond and Russia might conduct airstrikes against Azerbaijan and deter Turkey with nuclear weapons.

Iranian response:

1) Iran will totally destroy Persian Gulf oil infrastructure and mine the Strait of Hormuz indefenitely. This will impose multitrillion dollar cost on the West and economic recovery will take 5-7 years.

2) Iran will activate Hezbollah to its fullest and Israel and Lebanon will be destroyed in a new Israel-Hezbollah war.

3) Houthis will strike all ships in the Strait of Bab-el-Mandeb.

4) Iran will mobilize 2mln troops and hold defense in Iranian Azerbaijan and Kurdistan region - 150.000 Iranian troops will contain 75.000 Azeri troops supported by US airpower, 200.000 Iranian troops will contain 100.000 Peshmerga troops supported by US airpower, 600.000 Iranian troops will contain 300.000 Turkey's troops in case if Turkey will decide to join Azerbaijan. In total Iran needs 1mln troops to defend itself.

5) IR-6 centrifuges are already evacuated from Fordow as it takes 3 days to dismantle and evacuate 1600 IR-6 centrifuges. Also Iran currently has 408kg of HEU enriched to 60% which is also evacuated from Natanz and Fordow. Iran will install those IR-6 centrifuges in multiple underground secret sites and enrich uranium to 90% and eventually test a bomb.

Iran should start moving troops and mobilizing immediately.

Great Analysis there.

If Zhuge Liang were still alive and tasked with this difficult mission of trying to preserve Iran's sovereignty by surviving a war against multiple nations with more modern air forces and militaries, he would make the same conclusion too.

Kongming(Zhuge's nickname) who's also smart knows that surrender would be even more worse for the Iranian people, so would advice fighting to the bitter end too as warriors in the face of evil aggression from evil enemy nations.

 

[Forsvaret]

Looks like they hit big!

Israeli media confirms this:

 

[RescueRanger]

Just a word of advice. Anyone caught spreading misinformation about Pakistan on this thread will have their posting privilegedes reviewed.

Have a nice day.

 

[brazensword]

Israeli media confirms this:
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Follow up strike should ensure the building gets razed like theyve been doing to Gaza for the past 2 years.

 

[Aggregate]

Iranian News Agency: The facility targeted by the attack near Soroka Hospital houses thousands of soldiers, digital command systems, and cyber warfare operations.

Looks like they hit big!

and they accused Gazans to be using Hospitals as Human Shields and destroyed them one by one. the only difference is that in case of Iran I do believe that Iranians are telling the Truth. Because Israeli Govt themselves Officially announced last week that they were moving their MOD operations under a hospital.

 

[brazensword]

Just a word of advice. Anyone caught spreading misinformation about Pakistan on this thread will have their posting privilegedes reviewed.

Have a nice day.

Chachu ne apna vigo dala chalaya hua hai haha.

Please dont ban me

 

[Forsvaret]

and they accused Gazans to be using Hospitals as Human Shields.

Israelis are finally getting a taste of their own bitter medicine…