Lessons for Pakistan from the Israel/Iran conflict of June 2025

[Sinnerman108]

It will be much harder to do this type of stuff here

nearly everyone universally in Pakistan can agree they hate israel

Everything is hard to do, if you don't know how to do it,

I can tell you, this government including all it's pillars is incompetent to the bone.
Not necessarily corrupt, but A class "Nalaiq"

Same goes for majority product of our education system.

 

[lightning f57]

When you get in your comfortable spot and think everything is ok then you must start to worry.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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Lesson for Israel. Should have brough Akash AD from India, 100% interception guaranteed.

 

[Saifullah]

Indian Muslims should be and will be Pakistan’s biggest assets in a future Indo-Pak war.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Indian Muslims should be and will be Pakistan’s biggest assets in a future Indo-Pak war.

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[MastanKhan]

it was the chief and he did the correct thing. otherwise right now we would be in war

Hi,

As a muslim are you afraid to die---???

Supposedly with 50 aircrafts shot down---enemy's will to fight would have been smashed to a pulp---then followed up with sead & dead missions for 24 hrs---.

This called " shock & awe"---a favorite american term---.

Paf---just shot down 6 aircraft and gave away all its secrets---secrets so strong that the enemy grounded all its aircrafts to save them for a better day---.

Secrets disclosed on public forums so that the world can praise---" how great the Paf is ".

 

[MastanKhan]

Indian Muslims should be and will be Pakistan’s biggest assets in a future Indo-Pak war.

Hi,

They won't be. Because pakistan are habitually treasonous in nature---. They cannot be trusted to follow thru completely with their promise---.

 

[jehangir]

Modernway to conceale what's going while construction. PAF all C&C on Air bases revealed during construction, same in Islamabad in some sector and another on missile base in indus basin.

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[muz]

Indian Muslims should be and will be Pakistan’s biggest assets in a future Indo-Pak war.

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that remains to be seen

 

[arsalan345]

What's the end game? It's clear to me that United states is playing a double game. Once Regime in Iran falls, behavior of United states towards Pakistan will change. I don't want current regime to go like this. Irani revolution is nothing new. We have seen new Islamic Iran under IRGC. We still have good relations with them.

We must protect our interest at all cost and this should include keeping current Irianian regime in power. I don't trust United states. Israel wants some kind of joint action against Pakistan and India has realized it. We shouldn't become a sandwich between two hostile countries( IDF free access over Iran).

First we must think about this airspace issue. It's too easy for Israeli jets to come closer to our border which is a strategic nighmare. Should we allow it? no. We must establish our own air superiority over some regions of Iran.

Fall of Iran means disaster for Pakistan. Israel and India are friends and both are enemies of Pakistan. If israel decides, Allies will obey. We can't handle so many enemies so we must act now in our national interest. Covert assistance to iran and air superiority over iran is necessary.

 

[Distant_Observer]

I wonder what the Field Marshal is thinking here?

 

[RescueRanger]

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how this were brought inside their borders?!

That was also discovered in one of the drone trucks - that is the end cap from a Javelin ATGM
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Mossad have been perfecting tactics tried and tested in Ukraine. Remember these tricks were originally mastered by the Israelis in the first place - Ukrainians adopted them, and based on how effective the micro drones have been in Iran, they (mossad) have perfect this - to the point where collaborators (likely laypersons) based on people who have been arrested by the Iranians can operate them with minimal supervision.

 

[not_ahk]

Can we have small tactical teams of trained civvies kept in reserve with some cheap homegrown solution for taking out drones in civilian areas? May relieve the bigger guns. Just like the guy in Sheikhupura taking out a drone with his AK.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Lesson 2: improve own air defence
Lesson 3: start making strategy for SEAD/DEAD on israel air defence
Lesson 4: start making hypersonic long range cruise missiles as well as HGVs and atleast until the end of next year pak should have atleast 500 of them to scare the shit out of israel

Pakistan must learn critical lessons from the Russia-Ukraine and Israel-Iran conflicts. Modern warfare is dominated by airpower, followed by naval capabilities, and then ground forces. Therefore, Pakistan should prioritize modernizing its Air Force, expanding its Navy, and restructuring the Army for flexibility and speed.

The traditional army should be streamlined, while significantly expanding border security forces and establishing a highly mobile rapid reaction force. Pakistan needs specialized personnel focused on border defense and quick deployment to sensitive areas.
In the fight against Indian-backed terrorist groups like TTP, Pakistan has lost thousands of brave soldiers. This ongoing loss demands serious reflection: Are our security agencies coordinating effectively? There must be seamless communication and intelligence-sharing between security agencies, border forces, and rapid response units to detect and prevent terrorist attacks before they happen.

Moreover, to maintain credible strategic deterrence, Pakistan urgently needs to develop and deploy thousands of hypersonic missiles. In the era of high-speed precision warfare, hypersonic weapons are essential for deterrence against conventional and nuclear threats. Without them, Pakistan risks falling behind in the next generation of strategic defense.

 

[Samurai]

Read this carefully, it's from an Israeli newspaper, their wishes for what they want to turn Iran into and their choices of weapon.

Economic sanctions, isolation, intelligence operations, and balkanisation ("parition") using groups like Balochs. Etc.

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On point#6 in regards to Pakistan I will say that we have two major issues:

1) Baloch Insurgency
2) Afghans/TTA/TTP

Our govt. and establishment needs to make a policy for addressing Baloch insurgency seriously and sincerely. The woes and issues of Baloch people needs to be addressed and efforts should be made to win them back. Lots of wrongs have been done in the past by our system and now its time to change that, so that average Balochi feels like a citizen with equal rights and having access to all the basic necessities. Although this should be done for every Pakistani and our govt. and establishment needs to focus on the economy.

The Afghans as we have seen now really despise Pakistan and want Pakistan to lose everything. The problem is that these Afghans are openly roaming our streets and we don't know that in the event of a war they will sabotage or spy for our enemies. I hate to say this, but no matter how much Pakistan wants to get on the good side of Afghans, they just don't want that now and are happy making an alliance with India and have bad intensions for Pakistan, so that makes them a threat. The TTA can be controlled through diplomacy and by exerting pressure through China or other allies. Although TTA talks a lot about peace on the border, this and that but they are being duplicitous and are supporting the TTP. The TTP on the other hand is a menace on our country and as I said, there needs to be a final solution to this problem now. The Pashtuns of KPK are honorable people but some have been misled by the "Loy Afghanistan" by these ethno-nationals TTP wanting to liberate them and bringing Shariah.