Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

This is what I'm most concerned about. US would never be so suicidal to start this when it knows its assets are in close range to Iranian missiles, including the places its launching the attacks from. Are Gulf countries okay to get dragged into this, just to support the US ? Is the US taking an open risk ? Or is the US going with some kind of a plan that would somehow protect it, as well as Gulf countries form retaliatory strikes ?

If yes, then Iran should know about this danger too. Why is Iran not doing anything to thwart such plans, well before the attack begins ? Either Iran is yet again hoping that the negotiations re worth anything, until the US obviously attacks as always ? Or is the US so committed to Israel that its ready to jump into this

I dont know if this is just being over blown, but one thing trump likes is winners, PAF showed the world how it’s done vs a peer.
Don’t be under illusions and delusions.
 
Apparently the israelis have suffered FAR FAR more casualties/dead then what they are reporting too. Hence the severe reporting restrictions.
Why do you think Jews are begging to leave Palestine? Soon the land will be given back to them with jnterest if the iranians carry on - Netanyahu will want to change his name to wolensky and piss off back to poland
 
To my iranian brothers, stay strong. You have broken their arrogance of invincibility and you have give semblance of hope to the downtrodden muslims of Palestine. You will come out of it victorious.


Not only that, come what may now, the Iranians have shown that Brown/Olive-skinned Muslims CAN successfully fight back against the white european racist/zionists militaries. The Iranians have shown that they are the UNDISPUTED military power in the Middle East by a HUGE HUGE margin and the Iranians are FAR FAR superior to the arabs who are cucks.
 
Why do you think Jews are begging to leave Palestine? Soon the land will be given back to them with jnterest if the iranians carry on - Netanyahu will want to change his name to wolensky and piss off back to poland


That's why they desperately want the americans to join the war too.
 
Those traitors F around. Now they are finding out. Hopefully some Indian agents are executed as well. Would be a good deterrent against RAW.

brother Iran should never have allowed Afghans and Indians in

Iran was way to close to India and Afghanistan

now you need to clean them up build a wall and keep them out

for $1000 they sold out Irans hard work and decades of dedication
 
brother Iran should never have allowed Afghans and Indians in

Iran was way to close to India and Afghanistan

now you need to clean them up build a wall and keep them out

for $1000 they sold out Irans hard work and decades of dedication

Then Pakistan NEEDS to kick ALL afghans out of Pakistan because if Pakistan goes to war with india, israel or whoever, the afghans IN Pakistan will start attacking Pakistani people and assets. We need a last effective solution to our afghan problem.
 
When China helped negotiate a peace dealbetween Iran and Saudi Arabia in 2023, it hailed the breakthrough as a victory for Chinese diplomacy and a sign that America’s chief geopolitical rival had emerged as a major power broker in the Middle East.

But as President Trump openly ponders deploying American forces to join Israel in attacking Iran, the limits of China’s clout in the region are coming into focus.

China has much to lose from a runaway conflict. Half of the country’s oil imports move in tankers through the Strait of Hormuz on Iran’s southern coast. And Beijing has long counted on Tehran, its closest partner in the region, to push back against American influence.

But despite those strategic interests, China, which has little sway over the Trump administration, is unlikely to come to Iran’s defense militarily, especially if the United States gets involved.
“The reality is they don’t actually have the capability to insert Chinese forces to defend Iran’s installations,” said Zack Cooper, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. “What they would prefer to do is very quietly provide some material support, some rhetorical support and maybe some humanitarian aid.”

Though China favors stability in the Middle East, it could also gain if the United States gets roped into a prolonged war there, which might divert American troops, ships and other military resources away from Asia.

Whether Mr. Trump decides to strike Iran will offer lessons for Beijing that could shape its own geopolitical strategy. China will be trying to understand Mr. Trump’s approach to foreign policy and his willingness to use force. The outcome could influence Beijing’s assessment of whether the United States would come to the defense of Taiwan, the self-governed island that Beijing claims, should China decide to invade it.

Despite China’s close relationship with Iran, its rhetoric about the current conflict has been strikingly measured at the highest levels. After its top leader, Xi Jinping, called for a cease-fire during a call with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Thursday, a summary of the call released by the Chinese government did not overtly criticize Israel for violating Iran’s sovereignty.
Mr. Xi also refrained from directly urging the United States not to attack Iran, saying only that the “international community, especially major powers that have a special influence on the parties to the conflict, should make efforts to promote the cooling of the situation, rather than the opposite.”

When China’s top diplomat, Wang Yi, called his counterpart in Israel, he expressed Beijing’s opposition to Israel’s attacks, according to the Chinese summary of the call. But he stopped short of saying that China “condemns” them, as he had in a call with Iran.

In another call, with the foreign minister of Oman, Mr. Wang said that “we cannot sit idly by and watch the regional situation slide into an unknown abyss,” according to a Chinese government statement. But it is unclear what, if any, specific efforts China has made to find a diplomatic solution. In any case, Israel would likely be skeptical of China’s neutrality as a mediator because of its alignment with Iran and engagement with Hamas, the Palestinian ally of Iran that attacked Israel in October 2023.

China’s efforts, at least in public, have been focused on evacuating more than 1,000 of its citizens from Israel and Iran.

“Beijing is scrambling to keep up with the rapid pace of events and is prioritizing looking after Chinese citizens and assets in the region rather than any sort of broader diplomatic initiative,” said Julian Gewirtz, who was a senior China policy official at the White House and the State Department during President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s administration.
Discussions of the conflict on China’s heavily censored online forums have largely centered on the poor performance of Iran’s military and security apparatus, though some participants have noted the limits of China’s support for Iran.

Zhu Zhaoyi, a Middle East expert at the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing, said in a post that China could not provide Iran with “unconditional protection” and confront the United States and Israel militarily. He said Beijing could only exert pressure through the United Nations Security Council, of which China is a permanent member.

“The turmoil in the Middle East is both a challenge and a test for China,” Mr. Zhu wrote.

China’s tempered response resembles that of its like-minded partner, Russia, which has done little more than issue statements of support for Iran, despite having received badly needed military aid from Tehran for its war in Ukraine. Both Beijing and Moscow were also seen as bystanders last year when their shared partner, the Assad regime, was overthrown in Syria.

Their relative absence raises questions about the cohesiveness of what some in Washington have called the “Axis of Upheaval” — the quartet of China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, which have drawn closer diplomatically and militarily around a common opposition to the U.S.-dominated world order.
Of the four nations, only China is deeply embedded in the global economy, which means it has much to lose from turmoil in the Middle East. It buys virtually all of Iran’s exported oil, at a discount, using clandestine tanker fleets to evade U.S. sanctions. And its ships depend on safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz to transport additional oil from Gulf states.

Higher energy prices would present another major headache for Beijing, which is trying to turn its sluggish economy around.

Besides energy, Iran provides China with a crucial foothold in the Middle East for advancing its interests and countering the United States, which has tens of thousands of troops across the region. Beijing has cultivated closer ties with Gulf states for the same reasons.

Chinese analysts often argue that Beijing is an attractive mediator in the Middle East because it will not lecture other countries about issues like human rights. “It’s the only major power trusted by rival factions in the region, capable of achieving breakthroughs where the U.S. cannot,” said Wen Jing, a Middle East expert at Tsinghua University in Beijing.

But some Western analysts say China played only a small role in the détente between Iran and Saudi Arabia, toward the end of those negotiations. Washington has also been frustrated by Beijing’s reluctance to put pressure on Iran to stop Houthi rebels from attacking ships off the coast of Yemen, except in cases involving Chinese vessels.
That unwillingness to apply pressure on its partners undercuts China’s standing in the Middle East, said Barbara Leaf, a former assistant secretary of state for near Eastern affairs at the State Department who is now a senior adviser at Arnold and Porter, a Washington-based law firm.

“Nobody is saying, ‘We better call up Beijing and see what they can do here,’ because Beijing has played a purely commercial and economic role,” Ms. Leaf said, describing the attitudes of Middle Eastern officials with whom she has spoken over the years.

“They just sort of take it as a given that China is going to look out for China,” she said.
Propaganda. Basically setting up the justification for USA attacking lran
 
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