Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Gripen9]

 

[That_Guy]

China is the biggest strategic loser here - Iran was China's leading supplier of cheap oil.

Its not over for the Chinese just yet. We may see China double down on its support to Iran.

 

[Aggregate]

The end of Iranian-Russo alliance

The lesson being, that in the end all countries (other than Israel) are on their own in the grand scheme of things. We should all forever let go of the hopes that anyone will come for our or anyone else's help either.

And they cannot. every country should stop expecting that someone else will fight their wars for them (again, Israel excluded). Iran did not help Hezbollah, until Israel decimated them. Iran only joined in when Israel attacked their Embassy. The US has left Eruope on its own against Russia. And Europe has not sent a single attack army to help Ukraine despite 25 military powers being next door to them. Egypt won't help Gaza right next door and neither will Turkey help Lebanon. Nobody came for India when Pakistan started beating them up on the 10th May. China did not help Pakistan with boots on the ground and we knew they never will. They only gave assistance and weapons to Pakistan and yes, that did turn the tide of things, but again, Pakistan was ready and prepared for a long time, on its part, to take on India professionally.

Everyone is looking for their interests and nobody will come out openly to support the other. Every country is comfortable in their own corner unless they are attacked. The only reason US joins in so blatantly in every war is because nobody can reach them due to their geographical location and they have no hostile countries at all, through land routes. Rest will not intervene and do not want to intervene for anyone.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Bit of History/Flashback

In previous Peace agreement , Russia , relocated all of Iran's Nuclear material out of Iran

After 2018 when USA pulled out of the Iran-USA peace deal , of course that fuel remained in Iran

In current discussion there was talk from Russia to again help relocate the nuclear material out of Iran similar to last time, but they actually did not yet removed the Nuclear material out of Iran

As reports suggest it has already been relocated to new location
Which just means the Nuclear bomb will indeed get developed

 

[Bharatah]

FIRST OFFICIAL NEWS COMING FROM IRAN ( NOTE : IT'S NOT YET THE OFFICIAL STEATEMENT BUT OFFICIAL NEWS ) :
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air defenses around the three underground nuclear sites were activated and the attack was successfully thwarted, except for minor exterior damage.

The source added that all three sites had long been evacuated and there was zero risk.
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note: We can believe in it because myself has posted here that iran had evacuated this areas before today.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China and Iran didn´t have formal alliance.. Russia and Iran did and the Russians kinda of betrayed the Iranians now.

The Russians will also throw the Chinese under the bus if the opportunity rises and the Chinese know this.. What a shambolic alliance

You can only rely on your own strength.

China supporting Pakistan is because of the geopolitical strategy + decades of mutual friendship.

During the air battle of 57, Pakistan did above the expectation and well integrated with the Chinese weapon system. It is worthy for China to keep maintaining its support for Pakistan.

China also plans to offer the same kind of support for Iran, but Iran has too many western stooges who hasn't been purged and still exert a lot of influencing in those major decision making. Some PDF members even mention that potentially many Iranian traitors will probably sell China's military secrets to the US and NATO.

Iran is now 100% controlled by those military hawks, then China will put all bet back to Iran.

 

[RescueRanger]

I was hearing a US analyst today, he said that Iran has all the scenarios on the table.. Without ground invasion and a sizeable support (at least 25-30% population is required to support US soldiers on the ground), the US can't do anything.

The biggest strength of Iran is the unity. Afghanistan still had a sizable faction that supported the ground forces. In Iran, US can't do much.

The US has plans for Iran and now that is has entered this arena - lets see what happens when Trump speaks.

 

[Xiaolong]

It was expected move , 2 week was deception

• Russians were deceived with offer of peace when Bomber fleet was attacked

• Iranians were deceived with offer to discuss
  • Their leadership was targeted in first attack

• Iranians were deceived 2nd time with offer of 2 week deadline
  • Iranian once again were wasting time sending delegates for peace, instead of targeting high value targets in Israel

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• Pakistan will be deceived in the coming months.
  • These trade deals, crypto, mining investments, and now Trump Tower are all deceptive schemes aimed at misleading the Hafiz & Co and the Showbaz.

 

[Cesur]

Russia can never be trusted.

They have never been good with anyone for centuries.

 

[Shags101]

You underestimate the power of natural soil, let allow reinforced hardened casing over a hardened multilayer concrete bunker.

Even a nuke wouldn't be able to do much damage.

No I get that part but also get 200 thousand pounds of high explosive is going to do damage will see but yeah there’s going to be damage directly or from the massive shockwaves

 

[PakAl]

And last year Iran was bombing Pakistan and fully in bed with India to harm Pakistan.

Yet a year later - here we are - with Pakistan doing all it can to help that very same Iran.

Where are your Indian buddies by the way?

Some members are back to pointing fingers at Pakistan, the whole world including Iranian leadership knows we did alot for them, opposed any invasion of Iran, condemned Israel, at UN, OIC, in our parliament. I guess these same people want to hug India again, good luck to them.

 

[Beast89]

• Pakistan will be deceived in the coming months.
  • These trade deals, crypto, mining investments, and now Trump Tower are all deceptive schemes aimed at misleading the Hafiz & Co and the Showbaz.

Trump was fully on board with the Indian Attack and see how quickly he came in to save them

 

[mangekyo]

FIRST OFFICIAL NEWS COMING FROM IRAN ( NOTE : IT'S NOT YET THE OFFICIAL STEATEMENT BUT OFFICIAL NEWS ) :
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air defenses around the three underground nuclear sites were activated and the attack was successfully thwarted, except for minor exterior damage.

The source added that all three sites had long been evacuated and there was zero risk.
xxxxxx

note: We can believe in it because myself has posted here that iran had evacuated this areas before today.

We saw the explosion and all the secondaries. What was the secondaries then?

 

[RescueRanger]

So if they dropped 6 MOPs 180,000 lbs of munitions - where did these 30 Tomahawk's go?

 

[BigMela2onin]

People used to say assasinating soleimani would be suicide, attacking Iranian soil is suicide, bombing a nuclear facility is suicide, bombing fordow is a suicide. Always a new suicide

Honestly if they invaded and were closing in on Tehran, IR would probably still be sending Araghchi to Europeans for talks instead of fighting back.