Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

FuturePAF said:
This might be what Iran will have to choose. If they are to save their regime and take the time to root out the infiltration problem they have as well as work quietly on all their interests.

They will need a security guarantor to ensure if they stop, they won’t be attack sporadically in their rebuilding phase. Otherwise they will have to plan to do it alone and take their chances. Russia is the country likely to back Iran. Iran will also need to buy arms after this and it only looks like Russia will sell it to them. Equipment like the Su-75, S-400, and everything else Russia has learned from the Ukraine war. Acquisitions funded by oil sales to China and India.
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Three important lessons in the last two months:
  1. US word cannot be trusted and has no regard for diplomatic norms. Negotiations are just a distraction tactic while they plan attacks.
  2. Russian word cannot be trusted. Iran gave 8000 drones to Russia but Russia did not give SU-35 to Iran or help in any way last week. Russia is also controlled by Zionists and a large percent of Israelis are Russian origin.
  3. China lives up to its commitments and supports you beyond expectations. Chinese tech is also a proven match against Western tech.

Iran will need to assess its foreign relation options. China will not trust Iran as long as they have close ties to India.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
China needs to intervene if necessary, since all ME countries have been installed with pro-US government, even Iran itself is semi-pro-US.

If China is too shy to exert its power in the ME, then no ME country will be sincerely willing to ally with China.
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Can you open your eyes and see the attitude of the real world? There is no country in the world that possesses nuclear weapons. The nuclear explosion test that received support from other countries was fought back by oneself. This is what you have overcome the barrier of the strong. If you cannot pass, no country will pay the price for you! Because nuclear weapons themselves are a double-edged sword, they are a ruler to test your country's military determination
 
Cesur said:
Isn’t this the same "isolated" China that’s been keeping the West up at night? They've outperformed in nearly every sector and disrupted much of the Western industrial base while still being the world’s second largest economy. Imagine the impact if they become the largest which I have no doubt they will become.
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That's precisely why they can’t allow it. The collective west would rather see the whole world burn; then lose influence to a country like China. You're success and rising influence is exactly why they will confront you, and escalate against you. You have many business partners, not near enough military allies.
 
guangdongt said:
In your eyes, the Southern Alliance, at the national level, does not have a government that truly wants Iran to have nuclear weapons, including their other Muslim countries! Do you think protecting Iran's nuclear weapons can strengthen your own power? Don't be foolish. The reason why all countries remain silent is because they are surprisingly unwilling to adopt a unified attitude towards nuclear weapons!
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All other countries remain silent because they don't have power to confront the US.

And China needs to keep expanding its economic across the globe, and it needs to step up to show some warranty to its economic partners.

Nowadays, the economic ties and national security is bundled up together.

The US is doing at any cost to prevent other nations to do business with China, and other countries will not dare to continue its business ties with China if China cannot protect them from the US aggression.

Too many Chinese are still thinking the pre-2015 era when China should keep low-profile and focus on its economic development foremost.

We currently live in a totally different era, and China is already listed in the US radar as the first priority.

If you want to avoid the war, then the war will still come after you.

If you are ready to fight a war, then you might have a high chance to avoid a war.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
Well, their final target is always China, and China is buying more time for the imminent final confrontation.

Taiwan will be the powder keg that officially detonates the war between China and the US before 2028.

China vs US is just going to be the giant version of Iran vs Israel.
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Just hope the Americans are not going to listen to the foolish British historian Ferguson that says who rules Taiwan will rule the world. He wants the Americans to make the stance as if the survival of American Empire depends on the status of Taiwan, lol. The British wants America to fight China to death over Taiwan. He dreams the world is still in the late 19th and early 20th century when his Britain dictated the world esp to China.
 
They sent out their buddies to give him a warning and show him they could kill him at any time. They then reminded him again, that if he doesn't attack Iran he could be killed any second.

And they manipulate him by telling him it's a God sent mission by God, lol.

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Falcon29 said:
Same thing he said when Solemani was killed. Iran did a face saving attack at the time and informed US of the strike beforehand. No Americans killed and it was declared over.

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He wants the last word... knowing full well that HE is the rogue aggressor here.
He knows fully well that by him going rogue on both domestic and international law jeopardized the prosperity and safety of Americans.
He wants to push the genie back in the bottle while still on the high... something that he can flex on later.
 
RescueRanger said:
IDF have put out an image claiming that at least 1 of the 30 missiles launched against Israel overnight was MIRV
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Iran does not have nuclear weapons, MIRV does not make much sense.

MIRV has only 3-10 warheads and is expensive with high technical thresholds (India did not complete its first MIRV experiment until 2024). Iranians might as well use cluster warheads.
 
StormBreaker said:
On the contrary, This bullying of Iran could possibly give Iran the best reason to conduct a nuclear test and everyone would justify it, even the american civilians who are against this strike.
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Not possible now. Iran is under too much pressure for them to have any sort of safe nuclear development and tests.
 
Developereo said:
Three important lessons in the last two months:
  1. US word cannot be trusted and has no regard for diplomatic norms. Negotiations are just a distraction tactic while they plan attacks.
  2. Russian word cannot be trusted. Iran gave 8000 drones to Russia but Russia did not give SU-35 to Iran or help in any way last week. Russia is also controlled by Zionists and a large percent of Israelis are Russian origin.
  3. China lives up to its commitments and supports you beyond expectations. Chinese tech is also a proven match against Western tech.

Iran will need to assess its foreign relation options. China will not trust Iran as long as they have close ties to India.
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But China does not want to get involved. China may not want to sell major arms. Iran is going to need to rebuild its capabilities indigenously, if its regime gets the time to rebuild.
 
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