Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[koolio]

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[Adam Barfy]

Bastard bombs the shit out of them and then asks for peace in the same sentence? What a complete twat

Standard USA to be fair

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Agreed, people are asking too much for a country under heavy sanctions for 40 years, despite the initial compromises within, they have done as much as they could.

Since Iran's action starting since last week, we shouldn't still say that Iran lacks the courage.

Maybe during the period after President Raisi's death and Israel's decapitation of the IRGC's senior military leaders, Iran truly sucked badly during that period.

But after that, more criticizing is a bit unfair to them.

 

[Mobius]

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[Sipahsalar]

what evidence? Fordow just ate six GBU-57's, nuclear centrifuges are delicate and require precise calibration and are very susceptible to vibration, noise and contamination. The Trump administration was after Iran's ability to enrich Uranium and they succeeded if those centrifuges were in Fardow. Sure, Iran can make more centrifuges but their key manufacturing facilities in Natanz has already been destroyed by Israel. This will set them back at least a decade, now if Iran was able to stockpile enriched Uranium they can still make a few bombs.

They still have 800 kilos of 60% enriched uranium. No one knows where it is.

 

[Master Chief]

Your military Commander just met with Trump and a few days later the Americans are bombing Iran. If memory serves me correct, your Commander in Chief met with Putin and the next day Russia invaded Ukraine. Why does your leadership have the habit of being at the wrong place at the wrong time?

Have you forgotten Pakistan just had its biggest conflict with India since 1971? There are other issues that need discussing, not just Iran.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Have you forgotten Pakistan just had its biggest conflict with India since 1971? There are other issues that need discussing, not just Iran.

Yes, since all current global events all kinda connected together under a main storyline.

That's why the mods should let the topics to be more expanded to Pakistan and China.

 

[Master Chief]

If by "two sides of the same coin" means they are parties from the same country, YES.

But if you mean they are doing the same thing? NO.

Case in point, if this is the case, then we would have passed the Infrastructure bill 20 years ago, not last year, they are the extreme side of the same coin, that's why we don't get anything done in the last 30 years.

I'm afraid that with regards to Israel, their end games are identical. One is just more covert in its machinations .

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Is there any country in the region, that has condemned attack on IR, like Pak. has?

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[SABRE]

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They had the legal right to withdraw even when all this Israeli-American idiocy was not going on. What they now have is "legitimate reason."

 

[Unknown987]

My theory is that US did this small symbolic attack to get neocons and Mossad off his back. He is indirectly giving Iran a greenlight to have at it with Israel. The rest is up to IRI. Will they fight, or chicken out?

I say now just loose hell on Israel.

 

[SABRE]

They still have 800 kilos of 60% enriched uranium. No one knows where it is.

You need ~90% enriched U-235 for a nuclear explosion.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Agreed, just like Iran lacks nuclear weapons, Pakistan conversely lacks any advanced delivery system to Israel (missiles that are as effective as Iranian ones in both reach & evasion of Israeli AD systems).

If Iran falls to the West, it will be nearly impossible for Pakistan to reach Israel, while Israel would be able to freely move over any country on its way to Pakistan. That is why this Iranian war is an existential threat for Pakistan, as well. I agree with you, they can almost immediately threaten Pakistan if they only weaken Iran and effect Iranian AD in the West, as well.

there is no immediate fight or conflict with Israel beyond the rants of our political parties when they are in opposition. our main issue is with India and its proxies.

the extremists in our main opposition party will join TTP and BLA to target and provide intelligence on Pakistani strategic locations and people to help with the initial attacks. there is no denying that PTI unfortunately has a section within its ranks that is beyond reasoning and discussion. I am talking abut the group that wishes Pakistan getting nuked because their saint is in Jail and considers Imran Khan more famous and likable than prophets.

so I wont be fool in believing that this extremist group within PTI wont give helping hands to those that will attack Pakistan. PPP had al Zufiqar and MQM had its assassination groups PTI mockery and celebration on social media is very clear, they are celebrating American bombing because in their view it has humiliated Pakistan and their arch rival Asim Munir and they love it.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

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[Ali_Baba]

Morning -

Well, the Americans did it last night, finally. I think someone on this forum called it that it would happen this weekend, and it did.

If the facilities have not been destroyed, then Iran keep your mouths shut that is has not been destroyed. What value will your big mouths bring to the table except for more attacks ?

Iran would do well to learn to keep its mouth shut. Its big lose mouth gets it into a lot of trouble. Be quiet. Accept that the Americans have done this. If you are going to react, then react. If not, then learn to keep your mouths shut.

The Supreme Leader must now consider that his Fatwa has been sealed in Irans future for ever now. Iran will never be allowed to recover to where she once was and rebuild anything. Israel and USA made sure of it.