Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

Words over action are pretty much meaningless cut off ties to Israel reduce economic ties to America for freakin sake tell them your not investing 100s of billions of dollars into americas very very fragile economy and in the end if china whose the only real superpower after America is serious send in 10 thousand soldiers into Iran and say guys it’s over we are here go back to your airbases we are showing strength to make peace but if a missiles hits us your going to see a million mad Chinese soldiers all over the world

Well the resolution is being circulated - council members will review - it - give suggestions - change language - hopefully come to something workable.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The leadership has made major mistakes. If Khomeini was alive things would be different. Khamenei has drugged the IRI into the mud. Facts are facts.

The MAIN problem Khamenei caused was not making Iran a nuclear weapons state 10 years ago and not investing in the Iranian airforce.

 

[Tijani]

Can we please ban Iranclad as a source in this thread? He's a clown.

@Persian Gulf @RescueRanger @Musings

Why are you people so obsessed about banning everything and everyone? Where's the fun in that? Leave the propagandist in peace. Wallahi they're very entertaining. Read their post or scroll past them. No point going throwing bans like it's candy.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Meanwhile, here on the Home Front:

 

[El Sidd]

The leadership has made major mistakes. If Khomeini was alive things would be different. Khamenei has drugged the IRI into the mud. Facts are facts.

Well since you are here and regime change is part of the thread topic. Tell us what are the ominous signs of a regime change?

 

[KingQamaR]

Pakistan is doing what it can. Had it not been the threat from India things might have been different.
Dawn.com front page right now. Pakistan happens to have an temp place in the UNSC and is taking full advantage of that, again and again, in a diplomatic but bold manner.

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Now international law has gone down the toilet, definitely. The US will of course exercise its veto on everything. What a complete waste of time. It’s time we give up the UN itself. Pakistani representative rolling out articles and resolutions bla bla bla ….. like he’s going to achieve anything, summary is, the permanent 5 don’t give a s***.

 

[Shags101]

Well the resolution is being circulated - council members will review - it - give suggestions - change language - hopefully come to something workable.

………America in the end will dictate what Israel wants in the resolution if they don’t get their way a veto will happen so meaningless

 

[lightning f57]

Meanwhile, here on the Home Front:

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Funny thing Biden wouldn't have attacked in the first instance so this scenario would not have happened anyway.

 

[Shazam256]

Now international law has gone down the toilet, definitely. The US will of course exercise its veto on everything. What a complete waste of time. It’s time we give up the UN itself. Pakistani representative rolling out articles and resolutions bla bla bla ….. like he’s going to achieve anything, summary is, the permanent 5 don’t give a s***.

History will remember these events. Optimism assured, future generations will fix these issues.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I guess even 300 warheads is enough but having a global reach is more important. If US decides to hit our nuclear infrastructure, we can't do jackshit because our nukes pose no deterrence against US because of lack of delivery system. Building ICBMs can put us under sanctions as these are specifically built for nuclear delivery, So I think our best bet is acquiring nuclear powered subs. These can be a great deterrence as these have global reach.

We must cross this barrier of giving too much respect to ANY nation on earth. Pakistanis need massive numbers of ICBMs and high-yield nukes/thermonuclear weapons. If not, I fear Pakistanis will face in the same fate as the Palestinians in Gaza. Being sanctioned is better than ending up like the Gazans.

 

[Tijani]

It's what's inside the hole. Ever see the inside of a MBT after getting hit with a depleted uranium round? The entrance hole looks unimpressive but inside the tank is nasty.


Just a hole.
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Not really a fair comparison is it? There's a certainty that the MBT is hit because it observable. Punching three holes into a mountain says less because the target is buried deep into the mountain and there's no certainty on what you hit or if you even actually hit anything at all.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Funny thing Biden wouldn't have attacked in the first instance so this scenario would not have happened anyway.

Biden probably can't remember where Iran is most days. And, he's not a big Israel fan so you're likely right.

 

[RescueRanger]

………America in the end will dictate what Israel wants in the resolution if they don’t get their way a veto will happen so meaningless

Ture. Lets see where this goes - the wealth of gulf economies is at stake here and that will have a direct impact on the US economy eventually. The longer this drags out the longer the economies of US' middle east partners are hurt.

Air France KLM says it has cancelled flights to Dubai, Riyadh on Sunday, Monday

Air France KLM EURONEXT:AF said on Sunday it has cancelled flights to and from Dubai and Riyadh on Sunday and Monday, the latest upheaval of travel in the Middle East following U.S. strikes on Iran's nuclear sites.

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[kobra]

Well since you are here and regime change is part of the thread topic. Tell us what are the ominous signs of a regime change?

Yes inform us from iran, on SM Ayt Khameni is at epitome of his popularity among muslims of different nation irrespctive of Sect.
Regime change would require total annhilation of Theran and Qom with B2s and B52 making daily Quest and missiles raining down from Strike groups.
Unlikely but not impossible, considering that its now established that Iran will have to fight his battle alone, Russians and Chinese will just watch.
With Each passing day its looking more likely.

 

[mangekyo]

Let's hope they will not do another stupid thing and retaliate against America. America won't take part in a full scale war or even a persistent aerial campaign unless they are attacked. So the idiotic Khamenei and the idiotic leadership might just do the exact idiotic thing and attack US instead of focusing solely on wiping out Israel. Idiocricy on repeat would be ironic to witness.

Khomeini refused ceasefire in 82 and dragged us into 6 more years of war until he finally accepted ceasefire in 88.

And America is coming one way or another wether we like it or not