Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

No more attacks on tel aviv?

If that's the case, I hope this conflict draws to an end. It will of course only draw to an end once Israel decides to stop either because:

- they feel they have met their objectives
- they are unwilling to take any more damage AND no more direct involvement from others (for now).

If it draws to an end now, Iran is in a very strong position and israel essentially failed:

- Iran will have weeded out the infiltrators. Hopefully, it will now improve its security apparatus and learn from it's mistakes.

- The destruction exacted on israel is considerable. The psychological impact is considerable.

- Improved relationship with those it knows it can trust. Hopefully, with Pakistan also.

-battle tested it's missile forces, including hypersonic.

- will have left the IAEA. Can do as it pleases as a sovereign nation.

Let's see how this pans out, I personally think Israel will persist because it cannot bear the above.
sir, they start the war with 14 day objective. we are in 11 day

these last 2-3 days will be very heavy on Iran. the entity will go maximum effort air strike and will try its best to kill the leadership so that they can claim victory in 14 days.
 
What are your thoughts on the American attack?

Do you think there was an element of theatre to provide an off ramp?
It absolutely was. We started to bug out a couple days ago. Then, this morning on a couple news sources, it was stated Iran called Qatar. Qatar likely passed it on.

Later, Iran said they hit us back with same number of ordinance we hit them with.

Theater for the masses.

And now, Trump wants to taunt? *sigh*
 
An early truce will be terrible for us. They will reload the Israeli interceptors and they will attack again after a few months or a year. Iran will practically become like Assad's Syria. We need to severely weaken Israel's capability to launch long-range attacks first. The other viable option is a decent nuclear deterrence, which we lack and seem not to be working towards it.

And no matter how many missiles we produce each month, the collective West can always outnumber us in the number of interceptors they will arm Israel with.

Told you so. Iran's only way out are nukes. However, it looks like the nuke option is now a dream of the past.

If you don't mind me saying it out loud, the poet president is the biggest weakness. He wants negotiations and a way out. As you rightly say, Israel is the problem and will strike again in the future.
 

He's literally trolling the IR now.
I have a hard time understanding why the IR does what they do.
I mean they had already tried this so-called "retaliation" once after Trump assassinated Gen. Soleimani. And not only it didn't work (as expected), but it made Trump move towards actual war with Iran.
 
Told you so. Iran's only way out are nukes. However, it looks like the nuke option is now a dream of the past.
It's not a dream of the past, but the establishment seems quite determined not to go there. I wonder why. I have my own theories, but now is not the time to talk about them.
 
@Persian Gulf @Tijani

Next 2-3 days, Iran will have to ride out one of the most concentrated airstrikes from the Entity. some serious offensive missions directed towards Iran.

so that Entity can get off ramp

i hope Iran comes out with his supreme leadership intact.

alot depends on Iranian missile offensive tonight at entity.

By the way i just saw missile launches why use Ghadr missiles used at Al Udaid this is the oldest of the lot. basic missile - it was bound to be intercepted in air.
I agree

I guess they used MRBMs to fire from further inland to prevent pre-emptive strikes on launchers near the Persian Gulf
 
So a symbolic strike eh? What was the gain? Nothing I guess.
did you want Iran to go to war with two nuclear powers instead of one?

Iran is the weaker party already struggling with Israel, giving USA a reason to formally join Israel is suicide
 
He's literally trolling the IR now.
I have a hard time understanding why the IR does what they do.
I mean they had already tried this so-called "retaliation" once after Trump assassinated Gen. Soleimani. And not only it didn't work (as expected), but it made Trump move towards actual war with Iran.
Well Iran responded, he can troll all he wants.
 
It's not a dream of the past, but the establishment seems quite determined not to go there. I wonder why. I have my own theories, but now it's not the time to talk about them.

When the time was right Iran should have gone nuclear. I am afraid that even if Iran wanted to go nuclear today, it would be very difficult. Nevertheless, negotiations are on their way and Iran probably will have to abide by the new agreement.
 

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