Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

mangekyo said:
Its not a stalemate because Iran basically gave Israel permission to recover restock and come back after a month or two, while its its going to take Iran years to recover. Next war will be brutal for IRI
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Iran needs to stop this one-upmanship of firing cigars blindly. Once diplomatic channels open - engage in strong diplomatic relationship with China - reorganise, rearm, resupply and diversify.
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
Yes, ex-IDF terrorists or the 80% which got happy when Netanyahu started genocide on Gaza and Iran. 90% chance of terrorists being killed in these last massive pointy missile attack.
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They all have dual citizenship, if they are not terrorist they can show solidarity by moving back to Poland or Russia or whatever hole they come from
 
Falcon29 said:
Until now

11 killed in Beersheba after an Iranian hypersonic missile struck a building a short while ago.

And a large number of settlers under the rubble

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These were constructed on Palestinian land illegally so if a illegal building is hit it is not the missile fault.
 
If Iran gets through this intact then it is a win for them. The alternative is destruction of their infrastructure and govt overthrown followed by 1 million + civilian death like in Iraq. As long as Iran can shut up and not do or say anything dumb to restart the war.
 
ShapurII said:
Iran will never get its IADS back on its feet.

Do I need to reiterate the obvious again? Have we learned nothing from this war?
It is IMPOSSIBLE to defend your skies without an air force. Not to mention that we cannot even produce or purchase enough Bavar-373 or S-400 to cover our skies, but even if we did, it will be useless because the Israelis will take them out by ALBMs over Iraq. We need an air force, and we're not going to have one.

Nobody is going to sell us jet fighters now. Nothing has changed for us. Well, a lot has changed, but everything that has changed is bad for us. We are now weaker than 2 weeks ago, while Israel will reload their ABMs and the Americans and the Europeans will pay for it.
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You are correct -- the highlighted.

I will, as a US Air Force guy, speak bluntly: That without an air force, Iran is at the mercy of ANYONE with an air force.

A missile force can do only one thing: kill. Whether to defend a valuable asset or to attack, the missile can only kill whatever it was told to kill.

A missile cannot patrol territorial airspace and present a deterrence, cannot inspire the next generation of aviators, or cannot transport from military to humanitarian purposes. You cannot plan missions like what the US or Israel did with missiles. Despite all that the airplane can do, there are still many on PDF who believes the end all is a missile force. I hope those militaries listens to them.
 
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