Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RealNapster]

Pakistan is maybe the only country in the world, who want it's neighbour to have nukes.

And still some Iranians and Afghanis would call us American and Jewish friends.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

No not really stupid Israel has had spies in many countries or people willing to help for cash or have been blackmailed do you think Mossad hasn’t put spies in uae or hit squads in different countries they have don’t it many times in the past and present

cant argue really, I feel I am too dim wit.

 

[Shags101]

IR did not degrade entity's offensive capability (I am not a war expert, but, I can read between the lines)
IR caused damage but did not hurt significant military or civilian infrastructure when in fact, their senior military leadership took damage!

clearly, IR was going for attrition, and, in that process, would have suffered more damage.

on the last day, military HQ got destroyed too... did that happen to entity too?!

no!

Truth is we don’t know what they hit exactly we know quite a few places got destroyed or damaged from videos sent by citizens of Israel what we don’t know yet is the targets that were hit but citizens of Israel couldn’t video or take pictures not saying Iran didn’t get the worst of it but Israel took quite a few hits

 

[Assyrian209]

Pakistan is maybe the only country in the world, who want it's neighbour to have nukes.

The Pakistanis are smart people and very cunning but it is sad to see them always bash the GCC and Egypt for being equally cunning and being on the same fuking boat which is bidding time

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Truth is we don’t know what they hit exactly we know quite a few places got destroyed or damaged from videos sent by citizens of Israel what we don’t know yet is the targets that were hit but citizens of Israel couldn’t video or take pictures not saying Iran didn’t get the worst of it but Israel took quite a few hits

no, wrong!
these buildings are in open public places!

 

[Shags101]

cant argue really, I feel I am too dim wit.

Okay……than let’s move on we can have proper discussions without being overly dramatic you know we can disagree without theatrics

 

[Jango007]

Haaretz
3 hours ago

Report: Outcome of U.S. strike on Fordow 'really not good' Israeli source says​

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Satellite picture taken on June 22, 2025 shows an overview of Iran's Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP) after U.S. air strikes were conducted on the facility, northeast of the city of Qom.Credit: AFP/-
Two Israeli sources told U.S.-based ABC News that calling the operation a success would be premature at this stage, while one source downplayed the damage.


According to the report, the source who downplayed the strike's damage said that the outcome is "really not good."


ABC reported that the sources don't know how much enriched uranium might have been transferred from the site before the strikes or how many centrifuges remain operational.


Verifying the strike's outcome could take months, one source told ABC.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Okay……than let’s move on we can have proper discussions without being overly dramatic you know we can disagree without theatrics

you cannt really argue... or atleast, I dont that intellectual level!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

And so, it's a child !!

Quite a repulsive act , ridiculous cruelty

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Quite a repulsive act , ridiculous cruelty

repulsive and his community not declared te***ist?!!

had that been any of us, we would have been labelled child killers and what not!

 

[PakAl]

The Pakistanis are smart people and very cunning but it is sad to see them always bash the GCC and Egypt for being equally cunning and being on the same fuking boat which is bidding time

Pakistanis love Egyptians and GCC people, but ofcourse the genocide in Gaza is disturbing. We also want Arabs to unite and not be used by world powers. You will be surprised how much our people love Arabs. Ofcourse criticism is at its own place, same way Arabs may think of us as lower class than them.

 

[Olympus81]

Modern conflicts are not won or lost on the battlefield. On the other hand war can be viewed as an extension of diplomacy.

Did Israel achieve in forcing Iran to abandon its nukes? Probably not. In the worse case scenario of nuclear sites and supporting infrastructure being damaged, Iran has the capacity to bring its nuclear enrichment back to normalcy in due time and its back to square one. With Iran not allowing IAEA officials now or in short term, it gives Iran full license to continue enriching uranium to weapon grade and the ability to test its nukes. However, lets see what the future holds and we can say whether Iran came out of this victorious.

On a tactical level, Iran suffered with strikes on its military top tier, intelligence failure on multiple fronts and having to see IAF maintaining complete air superiority over Western Iran. On the other hand, the Iranians were able to salvage and maintain parity with multiple strikes on Israel on a daily basis. On a tactical level, one can say Israel may have been a winner.

 

[Assyrian209]

America is a waning empire their time is over in 10-15 years anyways you can´t benefit from them from here on out.

This decade was the age of the drones, the next decade would be bigger explosive decade I believe it would be the decade of laser weapons and laser beams that means AIRFORCES will be reduced to tank level..

Imagine each soldiers carrying on his back a laser weapon and with one point at an aircraft aka fighter jet it goes down as the laser is light and will travel at the speed of light hence you just gotta spot the fighter jet and it goes down this will mean waning of US significiantly across the world..

Aircraft carriers will become obsolote around 2035ish with the laser revolution technology

Well said.. finally someone who sees with current times things change quickly specially in the technological explosion of the era.. 10 years of today is equal to a century like 1900 to 2000 hence every 10 years we will make 100 years advancement

 

[samejjangir]

It was signed on January 17, 2025. Russia had ratified it on April 8, 2025 and Putin signed it on April 21st, 2025. It was effective on June 12th, 2025. Russia was given a lot of concessions in Syria, including phosphorus reserves and access to Syrian ports.


Iran armed Russia with Shahed-136 drones. Over 100,000 drones were sold to Russia with ToT and production lines. Russia to this day is still using Shahed-136 drones under the name Geran-2.

The treaty becomes effective the day both parties approve, not just when Russia approves. Iran delayed the approval for 6 months. If not for the nuclear talks going bad, Iran may not have even approved it on 11th June. Israel attacked just on 1st day after it was signed. So, Russia didn't see much sincerity in Iran. Also, Iran refused military alliance but only some technology and economic partnerships.

Assad & Russia has already left Syria in December. It doesn't make sense for Iran to offer anything in Syria to Russia after that. Russia already has access to Syrian ports via its bases. As for Shahed drones, it was purchased by selling gold to Iran. There was no real help

China is very economic-oriented and transactional at this point. China has been given enough opportunities in Iran, including deals that were worth tens of billions of dollars but the Chinese were not interested because of US sanctions.

China doesn't care for USA sanctions as it showed during trade war. It also purchases Iranian oil despite sanctions. There are other reasons for not being interested in non-oil partnerships with Iran

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

I wouldn't really say that. Israel has been using AI to target Hamas fighters since the beginning of the war.

Israel’s ‘AI targeting’ identifies innocent children and civilians as ‘Khamas’ - not sure thats a good example