Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Qaraca]

See what you want to see you're on notice in case of another agression against iran

You are the same guy who wrote “Azergayjan”, “Azergayjanis” on multiple occasions. Somehow you are still not banned, of course you will continue with insults when you learn that you can insult others freely.

You guys should tone down this chest thumping after all this, just saying. It looks ridiculous.

 

[Lulldapull]

All good but Iran should've built the bomb long ago. If they build it in 2015, they could have several 100 warheads by now, with ICBM capability. All of this nonsense wouldn't have happened.

Russia has 6000 nukes, they're under daily attack.

 

[Ali_Baba]

They kill defenseless children, and we destroy their infrastructure

@Falcon29

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These images are clearly AI generated !!!! Look at where the ships are in the 2nd image !!!!

 

[Qaraca]

During the war, Turkish airforce intercepted Israeli F-16s over Turkish airspace and ordered them to retreat.

There was no such thing, just a claim by a journalist that was later denied by Turkish MOD.

Here is the problem with some of you guys, you don’t fact check.

No Turkish airspace violation from Israel during Iran strikes, confirm Defense Ministry sources - Türkiye Today

The ministry deny Israeli jets violated airspace during Iran strikes, condemns Israeli aggressive policies across region, as per sources

www.turkiyetoday.com

 

[Musings]

Stop the personal attacks guys

 

[Persian Gulf]

A little bit of context?
Is this one of the nuke sites or somewhere in Israel?

penetration of concrete in Tel Aviv

 

[Ali_Baba]

$3B what a joke, multiply that by a 100 then it will start sounding real. Israeli economy was in a complete melt down before the USA intervention. It would be kaput by now if there was no ceasefire. Just one high-rise building would be more then a billion dough.

Add in :
the cost of the military operation
economic cost of hiding in bunkers
cost of munitions expended

and it adds up to a lot more..

 

[Persian Gulf]

IDF statistics on Iranian missiles:

631 - missiles launched by Iran
500 - missiles reached Israel (79%)
257 - missiles targeted for interception
243 - missiles headed to 'open areas' (including air bases) and not targeted for interception
221 - missiles successfully intercepted (86% success rate)
36 - successful missile impacts that avoided interception (6% of missiles launched)
279 - total missile impacts in Israel (44% of missiles launched)

 

[ShapurII]

Add in :
the cost of the military operation
economic cost of hiding in bunkers
cost of munitions expended

and it adds up to a lot more..

$8 billion dollars, including all those costs, according to Israeli sources.
I doubt it's more than $10 billion dollars though. $8 billion dollars for 12 days of war sounds reasonable.

 

[Persian Gulf]

IDF statistics on Iranian missiles:

631 - missiles launched by Iran
500 - missiles reached Israel (79%)
257 - missiles targeted for interception
243 - missiles headed to 'open areas' (including air bases) and not targeted for interception
221 - missiles successfully intercepted (86% success rate)
36 - successful missile impacts that avoided interception (6% of missiles launched)
279 - total missile impacts in Israel (44% of missiles launched)

Israel admits 279 total missile impacts in Israel... we didn't see video of more than 50... lots of impacts are hidden... as the Israeli TV admitted yesterday...

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iranian airspace is ours, US and Israel. Or did you not got that memo?

Iran did lose control over her airspace, in particular over her capital. There can be no denying that.

So serious investigations and actions need to be taken on that front. It seems that when Israel tried to penetrate the AD network externally during the TP1/2 responses, it came across a wall it could not overcome and hand to launch long rage ALBM's. So, Israel it seems to have decided to undermine the AD network from "within" Iran itself through special forces deployed into Iran, drones, spike missiles and agents etc. This approach proved to be very effective and it seems to have knocked out most of what was covering the North and North West of Iran and partially in the West. What Israel demonstrated was a dynamic approach to war doctrines and tactics ( which Iran struggled to demonstrate it seems ).

This raises the question of whether the core technology of Iran's AD network is actually quite good and effective as shown in TP1/2 and had it not been undermined internally within Iran as listed above, it could have actually fended off direct IAF attacks ?

 

[ShapurII]

IDF statistics on Iranian missiles:

631 - missiles launched by Iran
500 - missiles reached Israel (79%)
257 - missiles targeted for interception
243 - missiles headed to 'open areas' (including air bases) and not targeted for interception
221 - missiles successfully intercepted (86% success rate)
36 - successful missile impacts that avoided interception (6% of missiles launched)
279 - total missile impacts in Israel (44% of missiles launched)

Here's a different interpretation:
We know that Iran has launched about 550 missiles. So, if Israel is confessing that 500 missiles reached Israel, 90% of our missiles have reached the territory of Israel, of which only 221 missiles have been intercepted, i.e. 44% interception rate.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Remember, Iran airspace is ours, US and Israel.

It is for now, but the core AD network can be reconstructed quickly through external procurements if people are willing to sell of course. The building of the air force itself will take longer of course.

However, what is not known is how many undeclared facilities Iran already has that it can repurpose. What ever Iran does will take a decade, and the first focus has to be build an air force and strengthen its IADS and clean up the internal security issues before attempting this again.

The lesson for Iran is simply, it has have nuclear weapons, there are now many examples of why they should from Korea to Libya.

 

[Haz]

you mention that but you fail to mention they intervened after anybody else intervened

No they intervened directly the earliest, im not just talking about funding

 

[Liquidator]

Professor J. Mearsheimer explains why Iran needs nukes.