Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

IDF statistics on Iranian missiles:

631 - missiles launched by Iran
500 - missiles reached Israel (79%)
257 - missiles targeted for interception
243 - missiles headed to 'open areas' (including air bases) and not targeted for interception
221 - missiles successfully intercepted (86% success rate)
36 - successful missile impacts that avoided interception (6% of missiles launched)
279 - total missile impacts in Israel (44% of missiles launched)

Here's a different interpretation:
We know that Iran has launched about 550 missiles. So, if Israel is confessing that 500 missiles reached Israel, 90% of our missiles have reached the territory of Israel, of which only 221 missiles have been intercepted, i.e. 44% interception rate.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Remember, Iran airspace is ours, US and Israel.

It is for now, but the core AD network can be reconstructed quickly through external procurements if people are willing to sell of course. The building of the air force itself will take longer of course.

However, what is not known is how many undeclared facilities Iran already has that it can repurpose. What ever Iran does will take a decade, and the first focus has to be build an air force and strengthen its IADS and clean up the internal security issues before attempting this again.

The lesson for Iran is simply, it has have nuclear weapons, there are now many examples of why they should from Korea to Libya.

 

[Haz]

you mention that but you fail to mention they intervened after anybody else intervened

No they intervened directly the earliest, im not just talking about funding

 

[Liquidator]

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Professor J. Mearsheimer explains why Iran needs nukes.

 

[Lulldapull]

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Professor J. Mearsheimer explains why Iran needs nukes.

Russia gets attacked daily bhai. What nukes man?

Legacy weapons now no?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Here's a different interpretation:
We know that Iran has launched about 550 missiles. So, if Israel is confessing that 500 missiles reached Israel, 90% of our missiles have reached the territory of Israel, of which only 221 missiles have been intercepted, i.e. 44% interception rate.

44% interception rate includes US SM-3 as well

 

[Ali_Baba]

Azerbaijan is actually developing its air force. Iran should do the same.

If the new of 40 JF17Cs for Azerbaijan is true, it could take on the whole of what remains of the Iranian Airforce given the technological difference there is now. We did see some Tomcats get destroyed on the ground(most likely decommissioned hulks for spares) but no news of other jets being destroyed or shot down. Seems like the Iranian Airforce moved them out into hangers and mountain bases and they did not engage much in the war after the first few days. Not sure what value those jets represent if they were not involved at all, that wont be lost on the air force command as of now. Thankfully the pilots are preserved and can transition to new jets if Iran gets serious about wanting/needing an airforce.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

44% interception rate includes US SM-3 as well

importantly, 44% rate of penetration is not even linear, when 100 missiles were only fired on the day one!!!!!!

thats far greater than 44%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Persian Gulf]

But to reconstitute the enrichment facilities, Iran will have to find a different location, dig deeper than before

I see you are not familiar with the new sites at Natanz or Qazvin

 

[Meengla]

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Vance said something like that many months ago. He has been consistently against a war against Iran. Problem is that in America, a VP generally stands solidly and silently behind their President. But Vance is one VP who is a little more visible and vocal--after a long time we have such VP. I think Humphrey was anti Vietnam War as VP to Johnson and Humphrey was a more vocal VP then those who followed for decades.
A President's personality matters a great deal in America. I can't think of worst Presidents for the Middle East then Biden and Trump.

 

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[Haz]

Vance said something like that many months ago. He has been consistently against a war against Iran. Problem is that in America, a VP generally stands solidly and silently behind their President. But Vance is one VP who is a little more visible and vocal--after a long time we have such VP. I think Humphrey was anti Vietnam War as VP to Johnson and Humphrey was a more vocal VP then those who followed for decades.
A President's personality matters a great deal in America. I can't think of worst Presidents for the Middle East then Biden and Trump.

Yes thats logical, a VP in the US is hand picked by the nominated presidential candidate, he literally is nothing without the president's selection, he owes everything to him and will fall in line. He has no individual powers, except in rare and exceptional situations.

 

[Nuffle]

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These SAMs in Israeli cities do not need to be THAAD which are exoatmospheric, not even Arrow 3, only endoatmospheric interceptors need to be close to the place they are designed to defend, so it can be a David's Sling or Arrow 2.

 

[Nuffle]

I can make a summary of this short time war.

Government of reformists in Iran didn't listen to leader's advices and insisted on negotiating with Trump. This caused a false relaxation on Iranian side. It actually softened us to a point that thinking of an attack on the country was impossible. Whatever the negotiation was all about, at least, we learned again that American and Zionist lowlives believe in no honor.

The terrorist cells led by Mossad launched a wide spread attack on Iran's long range locally developed AESA radars and almost made them blind to foreign aerial attacks. Only in Tehran 11,000 small suicide drones along with a few factories that built drones by 3D printers were seized. According to reports, the illegal foreign refugees were mostly hired by Mossad to conduct attacks on Iranian installations. One of them confessed that its 10 years he received trains from Mossad.

After that, Israeli fighter jets and drones flew towards Iran through Jordan-Syria-Iraq and also Azerbaijan Air routes. The drones that entered Tabriz airspace were launched from Azerbaijan.

This partly paralyzed the Iranian response and activated its IADS but I think many underestimate the decapitation of the leadership as also a strong reason for the lack of response from the Iranian IADS.