Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Writing the book of hypocricy. Again, you have no grounds to accuse Azerbaijan then.

Where is the evidence and intel? Even the most Iranian officials have said is to “urge Azerbaijan to investigate rumors”, which itself is extremely unfriendly statement, but still a huge difference from what you are claiming. If there is evidence and intel, then show it.

Again, writing the book of hypocricy. Iranian media have always been extremely hostile to Azerbaijan. You even have certain “experts” whos entire job is anti-Azerbaijan propaganda, like Ehsan Mohavedian. There is Sharg Daily with Salar Seyf, maybe more that I’m not aware of. These people even call Azerbaijan a fake country, and with names like “Baku republic”. They have countless times written against Azerbaijan on topic of Karabakh, which is internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan.
The evidence has been provided to your officials during the conversation between Pezeshkian and Aliyev.

You guys started all this. You started to call Iranian Azerbaijan "South Azerbaijan" in your TV and newspapers. You have been doing this for decades. You are a fake country. If it weren't for the Tsarist Russia and later the Soviet Union, you wouldn't have even existed to begin with. You would've been part of Iran, as you should be. The thing that Republic of Azerbaijan calls Iran "a fake nation" is the perfect example of the tail wagging the dog. But I don't want to get into these discussions with you because it will lead to nothing but hate speech and this is not the topic of this thread.
 
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He and his corruption and nepotism and the likes of him caused this situation. Remember Alireza Akbari, Deputy Minister of Defence from 1998 to 2003 under Ali Shamkhani? he was a mossad agent and got executed.
 
Iran don't need to attack Azerbaijan, they are our neighbors and have the right to exist

But if they directly contribute to the targeting of Iranian land and civilians, proportionate response should be done

They already done it, our AD Networks completely obliterated in our north western provinces by mossad agents. Afghans don't go to our north western provinces , so you can guess it was work of Pan-Turks who were trained in Turkey/Azerbaijan and some kurds ...

They created a hole in our AD line and from there ,the Zion AF expand the breach and effectively neutralized our AD .

Even I.R which is full of Pan-Turk-Allahi start questioning them , that mean its true and they should be punished for shedding our bloods ...
 
The evidence has been provided to your officials during the conversation between Pezeshkian and Aliyev.

You guys started all this. You started to call Iranian Azerbaijan "South Azerbaijan" in your TV and newspapers. You have been doing this for decades. You are a fake country. If it weren't for the Tsarist Russia and later the Soviet Union, you wouldn't have even existed to begin with. You would've been part of Iran, as you should be. The thing that Republic of Azerbaijan calls Iran "a fake nation" is the perfect example of the tail wagging the dog. But I don't want to get into these discussions with you because it will lead to nothing but hate speech and this is not the topic of this thread.

This is the case of seeing what you want to see.

Find me a line where it says what you are saying. It says “Pezeshkian urged to investigate rumors”. Find me the word evidence there


In same article Pezeshkian also says that Iran and Azerbaijan will improve their ties.

If Azerbaijan is a fake country because of that, then Armenia is even more fake. When Russians invaded Caucasus, there was no Armenia, but there were Azerbaijani Khanates. Those Khanates (not all) were vassals of the Qajars, but nothing like today where there are provinces. They had semi-independence and even their armies, tax system etc. This btw was extremeley fluid, some Khanates like said were completely independent. You also don’t know how things would have transpired, maybe those Khanates would have united and waged war against Qajars. Before Qajars, these Khanates were independent and did not submit to Zands (which Qajars replaced).

And then also imagine that Khanates in Caucasus didn’t secede from Iran, you mean you would like to have at least 10 million extra Azerbaijanis in Iran?

Most of what is now Azerbaijan was incorporated into Russian Empire with Gulistan treaty in 1813. Present-day Armenia was occupied later, in 1826 with the Turkmenchay treaty. So, how is Armenia not fake with same logic? I will explain more why it can be argued that it would be more fake by same logic.


Russian occupation of the region greately increased the population of Armenians in Caucasus. Armenians who were displaced to Central Iran centuries earlier were relocated to Caucasus by Tsar’s personal decision. More were settled from Ottoman Empire.

Now this is perfect example of who falsifies and re-writes history.
 
Nobody fought for Gaza outside of a Houthi soladarity strikes which is much appreciated but Hamas never needed anyone to fight for them honestly.

They are the only element who actully grew stronger in this conflict they have prepared for a long term war another decade
You must have been sleep. Hezbeallah fought for an entire year on the Northern front . Iran constantly made belicose statements about red lines being crossed. They just did not just cross them , they paved over them. Do I need to continue ?
 
You must have been sleep. Hezbeallah fought for an entire year on the Northern front . Iran constantly made belicose statements about red lines being crossed. They just did not just cross them , they paved over them. Do I need to continue ?

And guess who is arming Houthis ...
 
It’s a complex situation, with all the competing alliances and rivalries between countries in the region.

One thing that is obvious is that Muslim countries are getting decimated one at a time. While they’re divided, the enemy is united and attack Muslims as a pack of animals. Arabs, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan are all in the hit list.

So, either we can insist on maintaining our previous foreign policies or we can admit that what we did in the past has not worked and try to build alliances with fellow Muslims.
You’re missing the real problem. Turkey already chose its side, and it’s not this “Muslim unity” you’re describing.

They’re NATO first, last, and always. They’re making deals to serve the Greater Israel project in exchange for their neo-Ottoman dreams of ruling what’s left of the region. It’s the same game as WWII, carve up the Middle East with Western blessing if you do their dirty work.

It’s not even new for them. Remember how the Ottomans promised the Kurds a state if they helped wipe out the Armenians and Assyrians? These deals always backfire in the West’s favor while leaving the region gutted and divided.

If we want to talk “Muslim alliances,” let’s start by naming the traitors.
 
we can't do it in 1-2 years and under constant enemy attacks , we have to use mutual destruction option as our last hope ... but it need a leader with courage and some insanity to carry his threat not just throwing empty words

You know the script of every Hollywood movie? The hero pulls the trigger first, aims to kill, aim is perfect. The loser is the one that misses one or all of the above, rightfully dead.

Iraq of the 90s and Syria until the collapse were punching bags. Zion cannot wait out anyone who it considers an adversary. It has a date of maturity and an expiry date... while not being part of NATO or any formal military alliance had tens of tankers refueling it's aircraft doing bombing runs over Iran. Iranis forget... they didn't choose their enemy, their enemy chose them
... they're working a prophecy(making it conducive)... they're fighting Persia of the prophecy they inferred... did every deed, sin or atrocity for that... they killed morality, killed conscience to do that...

Either play their game or do whatever necessary to nip it! There are no two ways!
 
This is the case of seeing what you want to see.

Find me a line where it says what you are saying. It says “Pezeshkian urged to investigate rumors”. Find me the word evidence there


In same article Pezeshkian also says that Iran and Azerbaijan will improve their ties.

If Azerbaijan is a fake country because of that, then Armenia is even more fake. When Russians invaded Caucasus, there was no Armenia, but there were Azerbaijani Khanates. Those Khanates (not all) were vassals of the Qajars, but nothing like today where there are provinces. They had semi-independence and even their armies, tax system etc. This btw was extremeley fluid, some Khanates like said were completely independent. You also don’t know how things would have transpired, maybe those Khanates would have united and waged war against Qajars. Before Qajars, these Khanates were independent and did not submit to

Most of what is now Azerbaijan was incorporated into Russian Empire with Gulistan treaty in 1813. Present-day Armenia seceded later, in 1926 with the Turkmenchay treaty.


Russian occupation of the region greately increased the population of Armenians. Armenians who were displaced to Central Iran centuries earlier were relocated to Caucasus by Tsar’s personal decision. More were settled from Ottoman Empire.



Now what I write here is perfect example of who falsifies and re-writes history.
I really don't want to get into the Azerbaijan-Armenia rivalry on a personal level.
I have nothing against the people of either country and I'm not going to take sides on the historical differences of each nation. I know that Armenians as an independent nation have existed before the Hellenic empire of Alexander the Great. They had the Kingdom of Armenia. But again, it's none of my business.

On a national level, let's say that Armenia currently serves and respects our national interests significantly more than the Republic of Azerbaijan who publicly makes statements on our national integrity and holds strong military ties with our archfoe (Israel) whose Prime Minister has said on numerous occasions that Iran has to be dissolved.

Both countries share extensive linguistic and genetic similarities with Iranians (even religious similarities with Azerbaijan) but Azerbaijan finds herself closer to Turkey than Iran for linguistic reasons and has alienated herself from Iran under Aliyev. Armenia, on the other hand, has no choice but maintain amicable relations with Iran and it's easier to trust them in this case.
 
Iran’s ambassador to Armenia acts like some kind of Armenian nationalist with his statements. Why the h do you think you can be “strategic allies” to Armenia, but Azerbaijan can’t have relations with Israel?

What genocide have Azerbaijan commited? Genocide axis? I will be waiting for reply. @Musings



Source?
Any country have the right to collaborate with Israel, no one denied that

But they have no right to use their territory as a forward base to launch illegal unprovoked attacks on its neighbors

Iran right now is treating AZ as if they are not aware that some people launched drones from AZ, and sent them the evidence awaiting for an action and arrest against these people

If AZ knows what is going on, this is another story and they are direct complicit and a proportional response should take place

Iran is not Israel and will not carpet bomb its neighbors based on doubts, but drones launched from AZ into Iran is a fact
 
No, it is the truth.
There is nothing they could do to a nuclear Iran other than international sanctions. :)
If you think otherwise, please specify what you think they could do to Iran with 15-20 nuclear warheads. I'm all ears and open to the possibilities that you're going to specify now.

Because Iran's sympathizers have been sweating and struggling to help Iran and prove that we're right, right? Jews are trigger happy only when there will be no consequences. You can clearly see that Iran's ballistic missiles forced Israel to ask for a ceasefire to replenish their AD. It's strange that you're disputing a widely believed, and decade-long-tested theory of MAD.
Are you assuming that by testing a nuclear explosive device Iran will automatically have nuclear weapons forthright? That's not the case.

First, Iran needs to somehow enrich uranium to 90%. It seems to difficult to do so immediately.

Second, let's assume Iran does enrich U-235 to 90%, it will then have to develop its test explosive device.

Third, let's assume test takes place, its success will depend on if the yield is supercritical and enough for weapons development.

Fourth, let's assume test is successful and the yield is good enough for weapons development, it will only validate that Iran now has the full capacity but not the capability, i.e. the weapon itself.

Fifth, to translate the capacity into capability, Iran will need to analyze the hot test data and design nuclear warhead accordingly. The warhead should be able to be incorporated on Iran's ballistic missile (the IRIAF is a non-factor, so gravity bombs are the door. Otherwise it might be "relatively" quick to develop a rudimentary nuke bomb for the air force as stand-in measure).

- Iran's warhead choice will be between gun-barrel or implosion-device. In the case of former, the trigger mechanism needs to be timed - its a science of nanoseconds with critical mass coming together and neutrons releasing on time, not before or after, otherwise the bomb would either explode untimely (perhaps somewhere over Iran itself) or fizzle out. These calculations take time and multiple cold test in congruence with the hot test data. Implosion-type device is usually not used for uranium based atomic bomb and is more intricate than gun-barrel. It is used for plutonium based devices and since Iran has no known plutonium reprocessing facility we'll have to rule this one out.

- Iran would also need to develop new ballistic casing suitable for housing nuclear package. Casing should be able ensure that isotopes from the U-235 do not escape outside and the critical mass remains intact for a long-long duration.

These are just few time consuming steps. There is lot more to do.

In short, transforming a succesful nuclear test into a weapons capability is a complex process that takes time - which might be enough time to for the US and Israel to do a bombing run again across Iran and perhaps enforce regime change. Whether the regime survives or not is besides the point (they'll leave Reza Pahalvi hanging on the rope for all they care). But they would have done away with all things nuclear by then. India and Pakistan both tested nuclear devices in 1998, and save for the handful of rudimentary gravity bombs with their respective air forces, niether actually had deliverable weapons until 2001-2002. Taking that as a bench mark, I would say it might take Iran 2 to 3 years to achieve ballistic missile based credible nuclear deterrence.
 
It’s a complex situation, with all the competing alliances and rivalries between countries in the region.

One thing that is obvious is that Muslim countries are getting decimated one at a time. While they’re divided, the enemy is united and attack Muslims as a pack of animals. Arabs, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan are all in the hit list.

So, either we can insist on maintaining our previous foreign policies or we can admit that what we did in the past has not worked and try to build alliances with fellow Muslims.
I think the Arab countries are next, as well as Iran on their hit list.
As for Pakistan, its not easy for them to hit us without serious consequences as we have China as well as Russia in close proximity and the West would be very careful to venture that close.
The only thing they can do it to prod india again to attack Pakistan but they know that it can turn bad very quickly and indians will get mauled seriously next time as retraints would be off.
I am predicting Jordan, Egypt and then Turkiye and Iran on the hit list. It's the way things are, a part of it due to "empty nationalistic arrogances." Some of these ME countries fall into the 'greater israel' map so they will be taken down one by one.
The prophecies of the Holy Prophet PBUH will come true.
 
Is that true. Iran hanged Israel spy.
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