Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Foinikas]

There was an established presence in western Libya in Misrata and Tripoli, there is nothing of that sort in Gaza. Ships could sail into libya, there was an airport. Nothing of that sort exists in Gaza. Not exactly a place where an amphibious assault can be launched, especially when the enemy has a defender's advatage. Once again you fail to see the details.

No,no I know the details. However,there has been a lot of bragging going on the last many years on the forum and by the Turkish government. The Turkish Navy can do this,the Turkish Navy can do that.

13 submarines,1 drone carrier,17 frigates,4 modern corvettes,16 OPVs,18 FAC and here's the important thing: The largest landing fleet in the Mediterranean,some 50 ships.

Then we have the bragging about the Turkish Air Force and the network-centric warfare capabilities.

 

[Farhan23]

they never bombed the Syrian General Staff or MoD buildings...


Israel conducted its heaviest ever one day strikes in Syria after Assad fell:

"The IDF operation to destroy Syria's military capabilities is the largest it has ever undertaken," commented Udi Etzion on the Walla news site.

Israel seizing on Syria chaos to strike military assets

Israel has attacked Syrian military assets and has troops operating in the Golan buffer zone and slightly beyond.

www.bbc.co.uk

That's not true. Syria famously shot down an Israeli F-16I.

Syria shoots down Israeli warplane as conflict escalates

Israel responds with renewed air attacks in Syria after one its fighter planes is shot down.

www.bbc.co.uk

They never bombed the mod because the escalation ladder with them never reached this far but they bombed over 50.000 times which is something they don´t do now.

Many many iranians died there sometimes weekly and other times daily..

They use to throw leaflets with names on the border and then kill these names in airstrikes at night

 

[Persian Gulf]

They never bombed the mod because the escalation ladder with them never reached this far but they bombed over 50.000 times which is something they don´t do now.

Many many iranians died there sometimes weekly and other times daily..

They use to throw leaflets with names on the border and then kill these names in airstrikes at night

I didn't deny that Israel bombed Syria under Assad. This is a straw man. You said Israel's strikes in Syria have "stopped and lowered" post-Assad and Syria had "no air defence". I already refuted both points.

Anyway, why are you proud that Israel bombed Assad's Syria more than HTS's Syria? Doesn't it suggest Israel viewed Assad as a bigger enemy than HTS?

 

[hyperman]

God curse the both of them!!!

I'm going to remember them when the Israelis are bombing Iran next month inevitably. "Muslim Unity" seem to only work one way, in a way thats politically expedient.

 

[Kyussis]

Turkey support Syria. Why would Turkey support separatism in Syria? The Majority of Turks are Sunni regardless.

The israelis are not the "good guys"(they are literally doing a genocide and running concentration camps) they are the ones that caused this conflict in the first place in Suweida. there are 3 druze factions in Syria. One was Pro Revolution(Laith), One was neutral(Hinawi), and one was Pro Assad(Hijri). After the revolution, essential every faction and the neutral supported to the new govt. Hijri is the one why under lobbying from Israel is trying to do what the maronite puppets did in Lebanon, which was create a buffer for Israel and allow Israel to expand.

Israelis are the worst people on the face of the earth. Why do Salafists ALWAYS avoid fighting them for a strange reason even when they bomb Salafists directly???

 

[PakAl]

Assad was the bad guy for the West, Israel and Salafist terrorists around the world

now Salafist terrorist have taken control of most of Syria thanks to Turkey's backing and are slaughtering minorities likes Alawites and Druze

Israel wants to keep all its enemies weak so fall of Assad was a great opportunity for them to bomb Syria and now they are using protection of the Druze as an excuse to expand further into Syria

Syria was toppled by Turkey and Saudi backing of rebels and billions of funding, Usa and others also gave billions of weapons and aid. Today North Syria is controlled by Turkish SNA, central Syria is HTS and backed by Saudis, Kurds and FSA are backed by USA and Arabs, Israel is trying to control south Syria. Agreement has been done between all parties, this is why wahabis have military power and Ikhwanis have some influence, slowly wahabis will increase their control and use state to spread their filth. Syria has gone from being anti western, anti zionist to boot licker. Israel is a big game player, they don't trust the turks and will try to kick them out of Syria, Arabs are fine.

 

[hyperman]

No,no I know the details. However,there has been a lot of bragging going on the last many years on the forum and by the Turkish government. The Turkish Navy can do this,the Turkish Navy can do that.

13 submarines,1 drone carrier,17 frigates,4 modern corvettes,16 OPVs,18 FAC and here's the important thing: The largest landing fleet in the Mediterranean,some 50 ships.

Then we have the bragging about the Turkish Air Force and the network-centric warfare capabilities.

The Collective West couldn't do anything against Azerbaijan with all their weapons in Karabakh.

Why is Othodox Brother Greece allowing transport of Azeri gas through Greece? Go ahead try to shut it down.

Or even worse, why is Greece using Azeri Gas? lol

Perhaps you will try to understand the complexities.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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lots of different militias in Syria now

HTS
Druze
Arab Tribal Army
ex-SAA / coastal resistance
SDF
IDF

and more

 

[Foinikas]

If it makes you feel better, The US, France, EU, Greece, Cyprus, Iran and all the other friends of Armenia all sat tight in 2020 while Azerbaijan manhandled Armenia in the Karabakh dispute from the 90s, none of them did anything, why? b/c the Geography and other regional complications didn't favor them in any intervention.

It's not the same thing. Gaza is right there. Just a bit south of you. For Greece and anyone else(except Iran)to help the Armenians,they'd have to pass either from Turkish or Russian airspace,which was a no-no or from the Straits which would also not be allowed by Turkey. The Armenians were surrounded. Russia wouldn't let anyone help Pashinyan's government,Turkey too,Georgia was pro-Turkish so they wouldn't and no EU country would dare ask Iran to let them land and pass from there.

But Gaza is just southeast of the TRNC. At least theoretically,the Turkish Navy and Air Force could have sent forces. Would they win? I don't know. I doubt it. Maybe after sacrificing most ships,aircraft and missiles,they could have caused significant attrition to the Israeli forces. But at a huge cost.

But then again,you never know at war.

 

[Kyussis]

I'm going to remember them when the Israelis are bombing Iran next month inevitably. "Muslim Unity" seem to only work one way, in a way thats politically expedient.

We saw how "Muslim unity" really works when every single Sunni country west of Iran was helping defend Israel while allowing the IAF free use of their airspace. We saw how even Pakistan who was vocal in its support for Iran wanted to nominate Trump for the noble "Peace" prize. Spare me!

 

[hyperman]

Israelis are the worst people on the face of the earth. Why do Salafists ALWAYS avoid fighting them for a strange reason even when they bomb Salafists directly???

Israelis are bombing Lebanon and Hezbollah even more aggressively since December, yet Hezbollah has done nothing. More bombs have fallen on Lebanon than Syria in recent months. Yet hezbollah does it, its "strategic patience", when others don't respond to an obvious trap, and work around it, its people mocking them?

 

[Kyussis]

Syrian Government has the right to defend itself and the integrity of Syria. From all threats internal and from outside !

Too bad they will never defend themselves from their masters in Tel Aviv!

 

[hyperman]

It's not the same thing. Gaza is right there. Just a bit south of you. For Greece and anyone else(except Iran)to help the Armenians,they'd have to pass either from Turkish or Russian airspace,which was a no-no or from the Straits which would also not be allowed by Turkey. The Armenians were surrounded. Russia wouldn't let anyone help Pashinyan's government,Turkey too,Georgia was pro-Turkish so they wouldn't and no EU country would dare ask Iran to let them land and pass from there.

But Gaza is just southeast of the TRNC. At least theoretically,the Turkish Navy and Air Force could have sent forces. Would they win? I don't know. I doubt it. Maybe after sacrificing most ships,aircraft and missiles,they could have caused significant attrition to the Israeli forces. But at a huge cost.

But then again,you never know at war.

Amphibious assaults are not possible without air superiority and a well defended opponent. in the same way the Israelis, French, Germans, etc etc can't do anything in an Amphibious assault on Adana, the same is true with regards to gaza. Amphibious assaults are notoriously difficult, its not a given that the US can do an amphibious assault on Iran, given the geography and the hardened opponent, and that with clear likely US Air Superiority over Iran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

We saw how "Muslim unity" really works when every single Sunni country west of Iran was helping defend Israel while allowing the IAF free use of their airspace. We saw how even Pakistan who was vocal in its support for Iran wanted to nominate Trump for the noble "Peace" prize. Spare me!

To be fair, Iraq and Azerbaijan are not Sunni countries. Iraq is just too weak and under US control (which doesn't allow them to buy modern air defences) and Azerbaijan is a confused post-Soviet country that has ended up under the Israeli sphere of influence.

 

[Kyussis]

Israelis are bombing Lebanon and Hezbollah even more aggressively since December, yet Hezbollah has done nothing. More bombs have fallen on Lebanon than Syria in recent months. Yet hezbollah does it, its "strategic patience", when others don't respond to an obvious trap, and work around it, its people mocking them?

When ever Hezbollah defends itself the Sunnis in Lebanon start crying that Hezbollah is destroying Lebanon!!!