Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[CallSignMaverick]

1 Rafale wreckage found in Bathinda with PL15 shrapnels all over the M88. Rest of Rafales wreckages including that of Shivangi singh fell in unpopulated area which became easier for Indian military to hide.

So IAF can hide wreckages, PAF can not... good.

 

[Areesh]

So IAF can hide wreckages, PAF can not... good.

The difference is PAF has officially claimed shooting down IAF rafales among other aircraft

IAF is not even in a condition to do that and that is the reason it is yet to officially claim shooting down PAF jets

PAF also has wreckage pictures and footages from at least four locations. IAF has none except those hanger damage photos like in your profile picture that you have zoomed 200 times for a face saving

You can just keep yourself happy thinking IAF has also shot down some PAF aircraft and that's it

 

[Areesh]

I am not the one making any claims here, just find it absurd saying IAF hides wreckages easily but hiding wreckages on other side is impossible. And IAF has claimed downing of PAF assets in the press conference but said they don't have the wreckages on our side to confirm. There's pics of 3 Indian aircrafts on our side, none exist for anything more than that.

My profile pic is not face saving though, it's a silhouette of an aircraft, now you decide whether it was an F-16 or AEW&CS tail because there clearly were aircrafts inside and whatever was inside is cooked.

Let me repeat myself

IAF is yet to claim that it shot down this and this aircraft of PAF unlike PAF that has not only claimed shooting down this and this aircraft of IAF but has even shared exact coordinatess of the shot down sites. Not to forget recording of IAF pilots. That is the difference. IAF condition is so bad that it can't even make any fake claims of shooting down PAF aircraft unlike 2019 when it actually made a fake claim of shooting down a F16

PAF has wreckage pitures and videos of at least four crash sites (you are wrong here too). IAF has nothing. Litterally

As for your profile picture. It is a perfect example of face saving and desperation. So much so that you are seeing a "silhouette of an aircraft". If your desperation would further increase you might see silhouette of a unicorn too in that damaged hanger. That is what desperation for a face saving does to you.

 

[TopGun786]

I expected 4 rafale ke wreckage mile honge, and all you had was a pakistani guy pretending to be "tejasswi prakash" (account withheld here) posting video of some francis george guy who's an MP of the opposition party...

4 k wreckage to mile na including 1 Rafale.
And that was on your own land (rest of IAF jets also shit and crashed there).
Imagine how quickly you people removed wreckage and denied any jet losses when there are clear and detailed videos of many of them are there. Now many of your own media and other sources are accepting 3 Rafale losses so why blame Pakistan?
Your blatant denial means nothing. We simply call it "beghairity".

 

[flyingorca]

So IAF can hide wreckages, PAF can not... good.

PAF was operating over populated areas, a wreckage wont go unnoticed.
Btw, where is Shivangi Singh?

 

[Cash gk]

Shameless and deceitful Modi’s cronies desperately trying to bully the opposition to stop asking questions like this ‘that hurt national sentiments’ Mission Sindoor was a humiliating disaster plain & simple, no other logical reason to dodge the valid questions. I’m just surprised that none of them said that they can’t answer because ‘operation is ongoing’As for Shivangi, far from being the missions poster girl which was the plan, think she went directly to be with her Sindoor. Well deserved too for targeting & killing innocent Pakistani kids.

They did not plan a mission they planned a movie

 

[TopGun786]

So IAF can hide wreckages, PAF can not... good.

Evidence shows exactly that.

 

[TopGun786]

I expected 4 rafale ke wreckage mile honge, and all you had was a pakistani guy pretending to be "tejasswi prakash" (account withheld here) posting video of some francis george guy who's an MP of the opposition party...

Btw India repeating history of embarrassing acts.
Now calling IAF's double engine Mig29 a Pakistani JF-17
You people don't have even a grain of honor and self respect.

 

[Cash gk]

France = -5
Russia = -2

-2 > -5
Therefore, Russia > France

No wonder Russia is dead happy with Pakistan....

Russians are not happy with India—and for good reason.

When India was in trouble, especially during the 1971 war, it was Russia that stood by them. Over the decades, Russia has consistently supported India—militarily, diplomatically, and strategically. From tanks to fighter jets, India’s arsenal has had Russian fingerprints all over it.

But when Russia needed support, India played clever. Instead of standing with its long-time ally, India chose opportunism. It imported cheap Russian oil, made massive profits by re-exporting it to the West, and stayed neutral diplomatically—all while refusing to supply any weapons to Russia in its time of need.

Contrast that with China, Iran, and even North Korea—who, despite global pressure, provided tangible support to Russia. And now, to top it off, the “cherry on the cake”—two top-tier jet fighters (likely Su-30 and MiG-29) were destroyed while in Indian service, by Pakistan. A massive dent not just to Indian pride, but to Russian military reputation.

No wonder Moscow is frustrated. Like France, they’ve now seen what partnering with India really means. Next stop? Maybe American weapons—let’s see how long it takes before their reputation gets bruised too.

India gained when Russia bled. That’s not partnership. That’s pure profiteering.

 

[side-winder]

Let me repeat myself

IAF is yet to claim that it shot down this and this aircraft of PAF unlike PAF that has not only claimed shooting down this and this aircraft of IAF but has even shared exact coordinatess of the shot down sites. Not to forget recording of IAF pilots. That is the difference. IAF condition is so bad that it can't even make any fake claims of shooting down PAF aircraft unlike 2019 when it actually made a fake claim of shooting down a F16

PAF has wreckage pitures and videos of at least four crash sites (you are wrong here too). IAF has nothing. Litterally

As for your profile picture. It is a perfect example of face saving and desperation. So much so that you are seeing a "silhouette of an aircraft". If your desperation would further increase you might see silhouette of a unicorn too in that damaged hanger. That is what desperation for a face saving does to you.

AK Bharti actually didn't claim anything during his presentation of "achievements" where he was showing what we did to Pakistani bases.

It was only a question during QnA which he otherwise had no intention of talking about - forced him to speak about downing PAF aircrafts. And how does he respond "we shot some aircrafts - now don't put words into my mouth - just some high tech aircrafts". More like a shutup call to reporter to just shut the F up and talk about something else.

Interesting, they shot down high tech aircrafts of PAF and yet it's not much of an achievement worth of a mention in the presentation of achievements where they were even bragging fake radar destruction claims with blurry sat images (unlike for bases).

Then CDS keeps mum on PAF losses in air - now Defence Minister keeps mum on PAF losses in air. Yet some bakhtoras still believe they shot down PAF aircrafts.

 

[Areesh]

AK Bharti actually didn't claim anything during his presentation of "achievements" where he was showing what we did to Pakistani bases.

It was only a question during QnA which he otherwise had no intention of talking about - forced him to speak about downing PAF aircrafts. And how does he respond "we shot some aircrafts - now don't put words into my mouth - just some high tech aircrafts". More like a shutup call to reporter to just shut the F up and talk about something else.

Interesting, they shot down high tech aircrafts of PAF and yet it's not much of an achievement worth of a mention in the presentation of achievements where they were even bragging fake radar destruction claims with blurry sat images (unlike for bases).

Then CDS keeps mum on PAF losses in air - now Defence Minister keeps mum on PAF losses in air. Yet some bakhtoras still believe they shot down PAF aircrafts.

Exactly this

Your IAF situation is so bad that they can't even make fake claims of shooting down PAF aircraft this time leaving you guys with silhouettes and all that @CallSignMaverick

 

[Cash gk]

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[F.O.X]

The Indian Air Force has refrained from claiming any successful engagements against PAF aircraft for one simple reason they know any falsehood will be exposed. Pakistan has both the capability and the confidence to present hard evidence, even parade the very aircraft claimed to be shot down, making a global mockery of Indian propaganda, just as we have done in the past.


On the other hand, the Pakistan Air Force has made its claims not out of bravado, but because it possesses verified success on the ground and in the air. In truth, India suffered far greater losses than we have publicly acknowledged. Yet, aware of the political cost, Indian leadership dares not disclose the full extent of their setbacks to their own people, fearing electoral backlash and the erosion of public trust.