Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[arjunk]

And are you assuming that India didn't return the favour in kind and more ?

They didn't, which is kind of my point

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Counter question, why are there no Astra/MICA/Derby BVR wreckages in pakistan? IAF had restrictions to not engage any adversary military assets and hence no SEAD/DEAD ops or engaging of PAF aircrafts. Even in press release it was mentioned no pakistani military assets were engaged while PAF was well prepared for two weeks, the "mistake" CDS was talking about.

Had there been an air battle I am sure there would've been multiple Indian BVRs ending up in pakistan.


Iran hitting Israeli bases is as useless as pakistan hitting a base in andamans with a shaheen. Iran isn't very close sharing border with israel and doesn't have an airforce which can take advantage of enemy's cratered runway and launch massive attacks. While a hit on PAF's runways and hangars would create immediate disadvantages in front of the adversary unless repaired.

So PAF is lying by saying Su-30 crashed near Srinagar? I mean random videos ain't an evidence. Especially from a suspended account.

absolutely bollocks and clueless thing to say!

 

[TAC]

Counter question, why are there no Astra/MICA/Derby BVR wreckages in pakistan? IAF had restrictions to not engage any adversary military assets and hence no SEAD/DEAD ops or engaging of PAF aircrafts. Even in press release it was mentioned no pakistani military assets were engaged while PAF was well prepared for two weeks, the "mistake" CDS was talking about.

Had there been an air battle I am sure there would've been multiple Indian BVRs ending up in pakistan.


Iran hitting Israeli bases is as useless as pakistan hitting a base in andamans with a shaheen. Iran isn't very close sharing border with israel and doesn't have an airforce which can take advantage of enemy's cratered runway and launch massive attacks. While a hit on PAF's runways and hangars would create immediate disadvantages in front of the adversary unless repaired.

So PAF is lying by saying Su-30 crashed near Srinagar? I mean random videos ain't an evidence. Especially from a suspended account.

If your AF actually came into attack, expecting PAF to welcome them with flowers, they are more circus AF than I imagined. Surely they can’t be that stupid. More likely the reason you don’t see any BVR’s fired by them is that they were blinded to the point where they didn’t get a shot off. I’ve not seen any of your officials counter the Pakistan narrative that even your uber shiny and expensive Ra-fail comms were hacked into. What does that tell you about their situational awareness and ability to fire any BVR’s? Even neutral sources have confirmed that they likely had no idea that they had a missile after them until it was 60 odd seconds out. That’s why ‘at least’ 5 of them bit the dust. All that crap about them not having permission to engage is either unbelievable level of stupidity on India’s part or more likely just more BS peddled to hide their blushes. Truth is ’s were hopelessly clueless, outplayed & humiliated.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It will be foolish to assume that India can overrun a nation of Pakistan's size in a short skirmish like last one. We have no capacity to impose on you guys in a short conflict. Indian conventional capacity and bigger resources will come into play the moment the conflict strech for few days to weeks.. so far India is shying away from it.. but given Modi' bravado, Pakistan should not try it's luck once more

Bring it on!.......come and attack if you DARE!!!!.........Launch a FULL scale invasion against us.......see what we will do to india. You indians claimed you are going to do to Pakistan what the israelis are doing to the Palestinians in Gaza. Now come and try..........

 

[arjunk]

Gents, you may think Bhatkoras on this thread are a bit daft, but they are really some of the smartest Indians out there.

On Indian forums they sincerely believe they shot down 11 JF-17, 2 awacs, destroyed 11 airbases, and nuclear weapon sites in kirana hills.

 

[arjunk]

Drone lol


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What if Indian drones are like their AI companies, where the supposed computer is actually a hidden team of Indians? Checkmate madrassachap bulla

 

[CallSignMaverick]

ISPR mentioned intercepted communications and played them as well, there was heavy EW, IAF didn't know what was going on how will they fire anything if their radars are scrambled and comms heavily affected. I do not buy for one moment the IAF were given orders not to act in self defence. You dont need to do SEAD and DEAD to engage the PAF in an air battle, they would have known that they will likely come against the PAF given the radars and AWACS at PAFs disposal.

I'm curious which tech PAF used to decrypt a military grade SDR within no time. Rest are assumptions of EW jamming causing loss of situational awareness. IAF were actually not allowed to engage the adversary, it is what has been mentioned multiple times, and was the mistake CDS talked about. SEAD/DEAD is important for ground attacks if not air combat. No BVR missile or long range SAM has been recovered on pakistani side fired by IAF.

I am pretty sure otherwise those EW jamming and PL-15E would've hit more IAF assets in 9th and 10th if that was the case.

That was not my point. My point is its easier to hit an air base than take down an advance fighter jet.

It's not about what's easy or what's difficult. Hitting a runway from standoff ranges with such accuracy isn't easy either. But an unavailable runway and hangar does give temporary disadvantages. A hangar getting hit easily means remaining at risk of losing multiple assets on ground.

If your AF actually came into attack, expecting PAF to welcome them with flowers, they are more circus AF than I imagined. Surely they can’t be that stupid. More likely that reason you don’t see any BVR’s fired by them is that they were blinded to the point where they didn’t get a shot off. I’ve not seen any of your officials counter the Pakistan narrative that even your uber shiny and expensive Ra-fail comms were hacked into. What does that tell you about their situational awareness and ability to fire any BVR’s? Even neutral sources have confirmed that they likely had no idea that they had a missile after them until it was 60 odd seconds out. That’s why ‘at least’ 5 of them bit the dust. All that crap about them not having permission to engage is either unbelievable level of stupidity on India’s part or more likely just more BS peddled to hide their blushes. Truth is ’s were hopelessly clueless, outplayed & humiliated.

Yeah mate PAF has EW wunderwaffes that can blind all IAF assets, except on 10th night and day... Pretty sure IAF didn't even engage PAF as that wasn't even the objective. Their objective was to hit muridke and bahawalpur and they succeeded with some losses. "Hacking comms" yeah sure maybe. But the official stance is, no pakistani assets were targetted by IAF.

 

[arjunk]

Counter question, why are there no Astra/MICA/Derby BVR wreckages in pakistan? IAF had restrictions to not engage any adversary military assets and hence no SEAD/DEAD ops or engaging of PAF aircrafts. Even in press release it was mentioned no pakistani military assets were engaged while PAF was well prepared for two weeks, the "mistake" CDS was talking about.

How and why would IAF fire BVR missiles when they can't even get a lock on PAF aircraft? Abhinandan did not fire a single missile either.

 

[TAC]

The biggest weakness in India is not it's military capability against Pakistan but its lack will to fight a decisive war, where it itself will suffer immensely. Many in India believes that we have a real chance to become an economic power in coming years and we are on course towards that goal. Hence, people including the politicians don't see a strong enough reason to involve into a devastating war with Pakistan, which will derail our destiny. Pakistan is a busket case and best be left to it's own path.

So in effect big fat bully gets his ass kicked by a 7 times smaller, weaker guy —- then slinks away saying ‘O you’re not worth fighting with, you’re so weak and puny, you’ll die of your own accord soon enough while I’ll get even bigger and stronger’ epic coping fat bully

 

[CallSignMaverick]

How and why would IAF fire BVR missiles when they can't even get a lock on PAF aircraft? Abhinandan did not fire a single missile either.

MiG-21 is outdated, serving only to maintain numbers.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

So in effect big fat bully gets his ass kicked by a 7 times smaller, weaker guy —- then slinks away saying ‘O you’re not worth fighting with, you’re so weak and puny, you’ll die of your own accord soon enough while I’ll get even bigger and stronger’ epic coping fat bully

Make no mistake about it, the ENTIRE indian kind is MASSIVELY hurt by the events of May 2025. They the indians still cannot fathom how despite near impossible odds, Pakistan battered, humiliated and castrated india on the world stage. This is an excruciating pain for the ENTIRE indian race that will NEVER go away.

 

[arjunk]

The biggest weakness in India is not it's military capability against Pakistan but its lack will to fight a decisive war, where it itself will suffer immensely. Many in India believes that we have a real chance to become an economic power in coming years and we are on course towards that goal. Hence, people including the politicians don't see a strong enough reason to involve into a devastating war with Pakistan, which will derail our destiny. Pakistan is a busket case and best be left to it's own path.

Sounds just like Iranian cope over why their 4 gorillion missiles could not decisively defeat Israel.

 

[Cash gk]

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[Cash gk]

Oh my goodness, burning smell is everywhere Indian fellows are coming with the new new terminology. My God they’re going to burn their asses for the next 10 years and now they’re going to defend their losses for next century.

 

[Cash gk]

Friends, the Indian friends are now trying to trap you in new kinds of arguments. But right now, just enjoy the moment, relish the fact that their pride is burning. What’s the point of replying to their arguments now? The whole world saw what happened and how they got beaten — even inside their own parliament, they’re being humiliated. If these careless fools still don’t want to accept it, let them keep giving new arguments. You just enjoy their situation and don’t argue with them — they’re hurt and broken inside.