Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

We don’t need to mess with them — Trump is already humiliating them every day. So just enjoy it. Trump alone is enough for them now. No one can tease or burn them more than Trump does. What can we do to them that Trump hasn’t already done?
 
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MiG-21 is outdated, serving only to maintain numbers.

You have much gold and money. Pay for the destroyed Lahore port.

The onus is on India to build the bridges she has burnt so systematically over the past 2 decades.

Pakistan would welcome any change in Indian policy to stop fuelling wars in the region and beyond. It would be best for the region if India accepts Pakistan's proposal for trilateral talks with China. A neutral venue like the United States can be chosen to facilitate the talks.
 
Hence, people including the politicians don't see a strong enough reason to involve into a devastating war with Pakistan, which will derail our destiny. Pakistan is a busket case and best be left to it's own path
By that logic and by the "new normal " rules a long devastating war should be imposed on India to prevent it from becoming an economic power. China will ensure that and Pakistan ( already a "basket case") has no problems engaging India in a war on behalf of China ( and Nepal, Myanmar, Sri Lanka , Bangladesh and Turkey) . We will ensure that India doesn't become strong enough to annex Pakistan and depopulate us. India can choose its own path to inevitable nuclear destruction. Its hard to be a $10 trillion economy after a few nuclear hits even though Japan showed it is possible.
 
This is a very interesting debate: Indeed, Indian jets went toward Pakistan to target ground targets which were all civilians (which India calls 'terrorist' sites) but what kind of foolishness was that they didn't expect Pakistan to not counter the Indian jets? So in a way I give some leeway to the Indian airforce because their primary goal as given by the civilian leadersship was not targeting the Pakistani military sites, but that strategy not only showed a stupid war doctrine but also showed cowardice in India to attack the Pakistani military sites. Just think about that!!
About Rahul Gandhi: Before May 7, I could tell that the Indian Congress Party really wanted Modi to go all gung-ho to attack Pakistan because Mr. Gandhi may have expected a humiliation in a conflict against Pakistan and was later going to take full political advantage of any Modi humiliation--and not only Gandhi but there are several left wing Indian channels now busy tearing Modi apart. Good!
This whole political constraint excuse is drama to shift Blame and Hide Incompetence of IAF for failing to protect their air Assets. How easy it is to say that political leaders told them to target non military targets , but political leaders did nt tell them to stop defending themselves. They fired from their own territory never crossing the border stayed well outside known BVR range of our fighters in their heads . Our fighters never turned on Radars so they could nt possibly take them out before targeting Mosques even if they wanted to. Their Fate was sealed that day.,SEAD or No SEAD mission.
 
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The case for striking civilian targets in India
India hits our civilian population destroying schools, and mosques killing dozens of civilians so why shouldn't we do likewise. But there are other sound reasons to hit a few spectacular civilian targets in India.

The Indian denial:,
There is no point trying to hit Indian bases with missiles and drones or shoot down Indian fighter jets.
India will deny any damage and refuse to acknowledge,

But here is what we should do; something for which India will not ask for proofs or satellite pictures. It will be on prime time news and newspaper headlines:

1. The Amarnath Cave:
Send at least 2 RAAD cruise missiles straight into the Amarnath cave, at the peak of the Amarnath Yatra or during Shivratri . It's an unprotected non-military target so no risk of escalation

2, The Ram Lulla Temple Send at least 2 Ghauri 3 missiles with 500 kg high explosive warheads straight into the Ram Lulla temple in Ayodhya.. It's an unprotected non-military target so no risk of escalation

3. Haridwar Kanwariya Yatra or Mahakumbh Send an Ababeel missile with multiple cluster munitions bomblets straight into Haridawar on the ghats right where the Kanwariya Yatris are gathered. A missile strike with cluster munitions on the pontoon bridges of the Mahakumbh in Prayagraj right when it is packed with naked cannibalism practicing Aghori sadhus would be in order These are unprotected non-military target so no risk of escalation.

There are dozens of other targets. Kedarnath, Badrinath, Vaishno Devi, Varanasi, Somnath, + 30,000 others..
These are not military targets, India doesn't have so many surface to air batteries to protect all its temples
We wil inform India courteously of the impending strikes. Just the way they informed us of the impending strikes on civilian targets.

Russia, Israel, Iran, Ukraine, hit civilian targets all the time The reason is such hits cannot be refuted.

So let's wait for the next Operation Niyoga to hit where it really hurts. @Assault Rifle @Vkdindian1 @Vikramaditya1 @onlinpunit @Raj-Hindustani @CallSignMaverick
Please beam back to reality.

First of all, all of these targets are HARAM in Islam with people in it and are against Internaitonal law, UN Charter and even basic human decncy.

Secondly, when hits are ACTUAL the entire world becomes your witness. Like for example, when we shot down jets, entire world endorsed us.. why? Because they knew from their own intelligence reports, industry inputs that it has happened. Now, If world is not supporting us or backing us for our strikes on Indian targets on 10th May 2025, it is because we COULD NOT hit anything substantial there? Onus of proof is on PAKISTAN in this case. When Indians say they hit us, they have proofs. Where is our proofs? Nowhere. Why? Because there was nothing of substance which we were able to hit. Now there can be multiple reasons why we failed raning from entire hoopla of Bunyan ul Mursus was for public consumption to a possibility that we messed up with GPS coordinates fed to Fateh missiles like Indians messed up in 2019 and couldn't hit the intended target. This time around, they hit Pakistani targets with great accuracy be it was on the night of 6-7 or later on. Let's accept that our strikes were ineffective!
 
You think Pakistani military has gone to sleep after 10th May 2025? PAF has gone to sleep
And, neither is the world. A nuclear exchange in the Himalyas means the end of the world as we know it now, as per an MIT study. Bharat has crossed the reddest of the red lines by firing nuclear capable missiles toward Pakistan. No wonder President Trump is uttering this potential catastrophe of the Biblical proportions every now and then for, unfortunately for Bharat, he has been thoroughly briefed on this matter by the US inteligence.....
 

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