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[maverick]

considering Pakistan is run by cartoons ... I would say a major achievement

even Afganistan managed a 15% rate.

thats tells u trump is bigger cartoon lol

 

[Vkdindian1]

Now not only India refused to fall in line, MEA’s quirky reply might also made him perplexed, MEA reply has hit him where it was mattered and press conference showed how misinformed he was.

Earlier - Trump is dictating everything to India. India is a lackey of the US. This statement emanated, probably from their own past experiences.

Then- Now see, how India falls in line. Since 25% Tariff and penalty due to trade with Russia would be doomsday for India. India has no option but to fall in line.

Later- WTH, DT is mighty unhappy with India. He doesn’t like those who question his authority. As India showed two fingers, the feeling of disbelief and hurt was seen going through the roof. Scores and scores became spokesmen of DT and started conveying his displeasure with India.

Right Now - Mass scale burn has been seen spreading all over. Burnol was seen flying off the shelves.

Likelihood - We will see mass exodus of these experts, very soon, till a new thread starts about imminent Indian downfall.

 

[onlinpunit]

we got a leader called Khan.. he showed us the light..

you guys are still on poop menu.

Yeah !! He is providing excellent lighting inside adalia jail !

 

[Meengla]

Likelihood - We will see mass exodus of these experts, very soon, till a new thread starts about imminent Indian downfall.

The situation is too fluid, even by Trump's standards, for anyone to predict. This is wait and see mode. I posted two videos 2-3 pages ago: One by an Indian guy and one Bloomberg and both say that IF Trump decides to really punish India then the Indians are likely to suffer a lot. Those are not Pakistani sources.
If India manages to come out unscathed from Trump's assaults on India then the situation won't be much different from what has been for decades of the warm India-America relationship. However, I have my doubts about that.
As for Pakistan, whatever they can get out of Trump, will be a bonus. Pakistanis have been largely sidelined by American for 14-15 years anyway.

 

[Vkdindian1]

IF Trump decides to really punish India then the Indians are likely to suffer a lot.

The question is - Why would he do that? What has changed so much and what would US gain?
I wouldn’t go on to list them. They are well known and haven’t changed in the last few months or years.

My assessment - these are just pressure tactics for a trade deal.
In any case, the things should unravel as per TST (Trump Standard Time), a time no one knows how to track.
But soon enough for this thread to be warm and active.

 

[Meengla]

The question is - Why would he do that? What has changed so much and what would US gain?
I wouldn’t go on to list them. They are well known and haven’t changed in the last few months or years.
My assessment - these are just pressure tactics for a trade deal.

I doubt anyone on this forum has a definite answer to your question. But to me it does appear that Trump senses weakness in India and is trying to extract major concessions. I also think he can really punish India if he goes through with his threats while India won't be able to return the favor as much.

 

[hembo]

Bloomberg:

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Trump’s India Feud May Open a Door for China​

Beijing and New Delhi see each other as rivals but there are signs of thawing.

 

[FuturePAF]

India would never allow any military operations from its soil. This has been a policy decision since 1947 and isn’t likely to be changed. This is well known all across as well as Trump administration.
When did Trump make such a demand from India? These are wild theories being dished out for the purpose of sensationalism, nothing more.
Why did he impose tariff on Canada? It is a NATO ally after all.
And if, Pakistan was really some kind of star then why 19%? Why not zero?
Trump speaks first and then thinks. Even his administration is not able to catch up in this regard and has been fumbling, off late.
Few nations with whom US had trade surplus were also imposed with heavy tariffs, which were retracted later on realising the goof up.
Zelenskyy saga is another example of 360 degree turns by him in a short span of time.

It must be devastating for many here, on seeing India calling out US for maintaining trade with Russia while asking India to not do so.

And thats called spine.

India allowed the US to train Tibetans in India and sent them back into fight. The Tibetans lost and now operate their “government in exile” in India. So that is one example of an ongoing American op.

 

[FuturePAF]

Munir is being made to be larger than what he is.
One lunch, Nobel preach prize nomination and he has been touted as a 4D chess player.
The very next day, the 4D appeared like 0 D when US attacked Iran.
Hoping and expecting a General to suddenly become a seasoned diplomat is asking for too much from him.
He was already a master military strategist, an economist par excellence and now a diplomat too?
Just think.

He doesn’t have to keep it going forever, just as long as he can, preferably for as long as Trump is in office. When he loses his effectiveness, watch the other generals suddenly look for a democratic replacement.

 

[FuturePAF]

19% tax is a master stroke for you guys ? Really !

Relatively speaking, it’s better than what India has been able to do. India faces 25% plus additional penalties.

 

[Meengla]

India allowed the US to train Tibetans in India and sent them back into fight. The Tibetans lost and now operate their “government in exile” in India. So that is one example of an ongoing American op.

I didn't want to post off topic but you are right not only on that but there are other major examples: India offering total support right after 9/11 to attack Pakistan, India's harboring and training Mukti Bahini against East Pakistan, India's role in Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka, and India may well be hosting Israeli spies against Pakistan and even unintentionally against Iran. That's just top of my head.
I don't know why Indians portray this image of non-violence; the country's history is very bloody from the start and not all of that is due to Pakistan.

 

[Michael]

India being as isolated as it is makes capitulation the most likely outcome... or simply resign out of world power politics.

China will support India on this issue.

In fact, a lot has changed in recent months between China and India. While the two sides continue to argue in public opinion, they have actually taken many concrete steps to improve economic and trade relations.

China will not allow the United States to defeat India through a tariff war.

 

[Vkdindian1]

But to me it does appear that Trump senses weakness in India

We have seen how that assessment is coming. India has already released a statement questioning US trade with Russia. That should clarify to him that India isn’t a walkover.

There are already voices in the US, questioning DT’s move to punish India but go easy on China for same Russian oil.

At the end of the day, Trump is not an idiot. Temperamental? Definitely.

I also think he can really punish India if he goes through with his threats while India won't be able to return the favor as much.

US is a superpower like no other and can do a lot. But there are enough examples of US retreating in the face of resistance.

But the question still remains, why would DT do anything of that sort?
To extract what from India? India is not Iran, Russia or Venezuela.

Let me also clarify that, if he keeps issuing threats on Twitter, then any chances of India accepting an unfavourable trade pact would vanish in thin air.
India has been holding out in the negotiations and knows very well the possibilities of failed talks.

But coercion? I don’t remember India capitulating to coercion.

 

[Meengla]

He doesn’t have to keep it going forever, just as long as he can, preferably for as long as Trump is in office. When he loses his effectiveness, watch the other generals suddenly look for a democratic replacement.

Offtopic but I don't think Munir will be replaced with some 'democratic replacement'. This is a long term policy in Pakistan to have an undeclared Martial Law for the next several years with focus on the economic revival. Pakistan's benefactors are tired of bailing Pakistan out every few years and so what we have is going to persist for many years: A façade of 'democracy' with focus on reviving the economy.
Pakistan had come very close to a fiscal default just 3-4 years ago, which would have horrible consequences for Pakistan given Pakistan's very vulnerable geopolitical location, which this forum should know all too well.

 

[Vkdindian1]

He doesn’t have to keep it going forever, just as long as he can, preferably for as long as Trump is in office. When he loses his effectiveness, watch the other generals suddenly look for a democratic replacement.

That’s been the pattern for since 1947.

But, unlike many others, I wouldn’t judge Pakistan for this.

They can do whatever, floats their boat. If this system works for Pakistan, then so be it.