PAF F-16 | Discussions

[Fatman17]

Today in F-16 history
5 Sep 1989
Pakistan orders 60 F-16s (Peace Gate IV).

 

[Fatman17]

Today in F-16 history
5 Sep 1989
Pakistan orders 60 F-16s (Peace Gate IV).

Peace Gate Closed lV.

 

[Unknown987]

If the F16s are only allowed to be used against terrorism than we should sell them.
No point having such a fighter if they are to be used against TTP.

 

[Reichmarshal]

Today in F-16 history
5 Sep 1989
Pakistan orders 60 F-16s (Peace Gate IV).

And recieved soya beans instead

 

[Strawman]

And recieved soya beans instead

That's not accurate. We were offered export goods as repayment because of the non-proliferation policy in effect at the time, and we chose to have it split between goods and cash, $200 million in wheat and other goods and later nearly $500 million in cash to round off the $700 million program cost once that policy ended in the late 1990s with the Brown and subsequent amendments. We were only reimbursed for the PGIV program since PGIII was already US taxpayer funded. 14 of the 28 jets built were then also delivered to us in the 2000s at no cost.

 

[ARMalik]

Slightly off topic but Social media reporting a large US transport aircraft landing at Nur Khan. Does anyone know what this is???

 

[Fatman17]

Slightly off topic but Social media reporting a large US transport aircraft landing at Nur Khan. Does anyone know what this is???

Normal practice

 

[Strawman]

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Flood relief goods... the large US transport plane

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Yasser76]

Shame we never got a MIG-25 Foxbat, else PAF can claim to have shot down every modern MIG Fighter in history.....

Think even Israel never got a MIG-29 (could be wrong here)

 

[Raider 21]

Shame we never got a MIG-25 Foxbat, else PAF can claim to have shot down every modern MIG Fighter in history.....

Think even Israel never got a MIG-29 (could be wrong here)

Two 14 Squadron Vipers intercepted them on separate occasions. One even chased an IAF MiG-25 Foxbat back into India by going all the way to Poonch. The combat controller was half asleep, the PAF Viper driver turned on his tone on the Foxbat…Indian decides to bug out while the PAF Viper was on its tail well within India after which he was told to disengage. The year was 1993.

 

[Oscar]

Two 14 Squadron Vipers intercepted them on separate occasions. One even chased an IAF MiG-25 Foxbat back into India by going all the way to Poonch. The combat controller was half asleep, the PAF Viper driver turned on his tone on the Foxbat…Indian decides to bug out while the PAF Viper was on its tail well within India after which he was told to disengage. The year was 1993.

You can see where the obsession to bag a F-16 kill existed within the IAF. They spent pretty much most of their training finding tactics to kill vipers with some good ideas among Bahadur drivers of using Mid range R-23 shots to force vipers to bleed energy while they used the impressive acceleration to close in for a WVR against low energy vipers.

 

[Raider 21]

You can see where the obsession to bag a F-16 kill existed within the IAF. They spent pretty much most of their training finding tactics to kill vipers with some good ideas among Bahadur drivers of using Mid range R-23 shots to force vipers to bleed energy while they used the impressive acceleration to close in for a WVR against low energy vipers.

The one engagement I'm aware of....the MiG-25 had no clue there was a Viper under him for minutes until the Viper turned on his AIM-9L to active tone....