Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

They don't even know what Valhalla is.

In any case the guy that killed Kirk is a groyper to the right of Kirk if that's even possible. Look at Nick Fuentes.

Kirk was killed for not being fascist enough.
 
BS...

Hamas are legitimate Defenders of Palestine who's defending the Palestinians you answer that question who defends the Palestinian right to exist Hamas are freedom fighters their supporters of the Palestinian cause and somebody has to defend defenseless women and children they're defending their fathers for defending their own children get over this Hamas is terrorist BS

Hamas is the defender of ideology instead of the humanity of Palestinian.

Hamas claims to defend the Palestinian cause, but its actions often put ideology ahead of protecting civilians. The group’s goal of eliminating Israel drives decisions that expose Palestinians to danger—like launching attacks from crowded areas and rejecting peace efforts.

So Kirk blame Hamas, not humanity of Palestinian.
 
Hamas is the defender of ideology instead of the humanity of Palestinian.

Hamas claims to defend the Palestinian cause, but its actions often put ideology ahead of protecting civilians. The group’s goal of eliminating Israel drives decisions that expose Palestinians to danger—like launching attacks from crowded areas and rejecting peace efforts.

So Kirk blame Hamas, not humanity of Palestinian.
I am sure you will be as sympathetic to OBL's reasoning for striking at Twin towers, the heart of financial sector of the US the supports it's war efforts across the world.. or the attack on Pentagon itself which is nestled between civilian infrastructure. Right?
 
I am sure you will be as sympathetic to OBL's reasoning for striking at Twin towers, the heart of financial sector of the US the supports it's war efforts across the world.. or the attack on Pentagon itself which is nestled between civilian infrastructure. Right?

Both Hamas and OBL were sacrificing civilian for their ideology purpose. The difference the latest sacrifice american life, while the first sacrifice their own people (Palestinian).

Both deserve condemn.
 
Both Hamas and OBL were sacrificing civilian for their ideology purpose. The difference the latest sacrifice american life, while the first sacrifice their own people (Palestinian).

Both deserve condemn.
You didn't answer the question. Is Pentagon and other Military, financial assets that help America war effort abroad, legitimate targets or not? Especially if they are nestled and embedded in civilian infrastructure? Yes or no.
 
You didn't answer the question. Is Pentagon and other Military, financial assets that help America war effort abroad, legitimate targets or not? Especially if they are nestled and embedded in civilian infrastructure? Yes or no.

Of course.

Which example that American military nestled in civilian infrastructure?
 
Of course.

Which example that American military nestled in civilian infrastructure?
Pentagon, 500 meters from Macy's. Every naval base is like the same desistance give it take from residential buildings. Randolf AFB is surrounded by residential homes on all sides. Same with Fort Sam Houston.

The list will be shorter to name those military bases not nestled in civilian infrastructure. And it's not US specific. Every country has this. But all of them enjoy more territorial depth tha Gaza so they have even less of an excuse than Hamas.

And that's not to mention those military recruitment stations in colleges and universities, and in malls. Do they make these legitimate targets? Just bomb a shopping center, then post a picture of a military recruitment center there last year and call it "righteous kill". right? There was national guard present along the route during Boston bombings. "Righteous kill", right?

The thing is that the mass slaughter of civilians in Palestine in general and Gaza in particular has been so transparent that even the legendary western tactic of grinding other in word games no longer works. Everyone sees through it.
 
Pentagon, 500 meters from Macy's. Every naval base is like the same desistance give it take from residential buildings. Randolf AFB is surrounded by residential homes on all sides. Same with Fort Sam Houston.

The list will be shorter to name those military bases not nestled in civilian infrastructure. And it's not US specific. Every country has this. But all of them enjoy more territorial depth tha Gaza so they have even less of an excuse than Hamas.

And that's not to mention those military recruitment stations in colleges and universities, and in malls. Do they make these legitimate targets? Just bomb a shopping center, then post a picture of a military recruitment center there last year and call it "righteous kill". right? There was national guard present along the route during Boston bombings. "Righteous kill", right?

The thing is that the mass slaughter of civilians in Palestine in general and Gaza in particular has been so transparent that even the legendary western tactic of grinding other in word games no longer works. Everyone sees through it.

LOL. Those are not nestled in the public facility, only nearby, and nobody can bomb that facility unless they can pass US defence system.

And it is legitimate for the enemy to bomb that facility.
 
Hamas is the defender of ideology instead of the humanity of Palestinian.

Hamas claims to defend the Palestinian cause, but its actions often put ideology ahead of protecting civilians. The group’s goal of eliminating Israel drives decisions that expose Palestinians to danger—like launching attacks from crowded areas and rejecting peace efforts.

So Kirk blame Hamas, not humanity of Palestinian.
Please don´t show such a delicate skin.

1º.- Gaza was de facto an illegal concentration camp. It was surrounded by a wall and Israel just let them enter 200 to 250 trucks daily (it was a siege).

2º.- Netanyahu let pass tens of briefcases filled with qatari money, just fo fund Hamás and keep well separated from OLP on West Bank.

3º.- Far Right killed Shimon Peres and some time after Mossad killed Yassir Arafat.

So even if Hamás was not created by Israel (I think so) they watered it happily, creating a monster that woke up one day.

Blame Hamás cannot hide responsability of Israel.

And with ISIS it was the same. ISIS was in Daraa province for years... how many bombs launched Israel to them when they were trying to enter Damascus?

Israel it is the problem. Nor Hamás nor ISIS.

And now they´re funding AGAIN moderate beheaders in Gaza.
 
Please don´t show such a delicate skin.

1º.- Gaza was de facto an illegal concentration camp. It was surrounded by a wall and Israel just let them enter 200 to 250 trucks daily (it was a siege).

2º.- Netanyahu let pass tens of briefcases filled with qatari money, just fo fund Hamás and keep well separated from OLP on West Bank.

3º.- Far Right killed Shimon Peres and some time after Mossad killed Yassir Arafat.

So even if Hamás was not created by Israel (I think so) they watered it happily, creating a monster that woke up one day.

Blame Hamás cannot hide responsability of Israel.

And with ISIS it was the same. ISIS was in Daraa province for years... how many bombs launched Israel to them when they were trying to enter Damascus?

Israel it is the problem. Nor Hamás nor ISIS.

And now they´re funding AGAIN moderate beheaders in Gaza.

That sounds like playing victim as always for some.

The situation you mentioned above reflects the consequences of long-standing ideological choices and confrontational approaches.

If Palestinian leadership were to prioritize peace, regional cooperation, and mutual development—rather than hostility and threats toward their more powerful neighbor - it could open the path to lasting independence and economic progress. By fostering trust and ensuring their neighbor can live free from fear, Palestinians themselves could benefit from stability, sovereignty, and shared prosperity.

So long as Palestinian choose a path that perpetuates conflict and denies their neighbor the same sense of security and independence, full freedom will remain out of reach.
 
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Israel’s security measures are not arbitrary—they are direct responses to ongoing threats maintained by Palestinian factions that continue to reject Israel’s right to exist, proven by consistent attack from the first time they exist. These restrictions, while harsh, are defensive in nature. If Palestinian leadership truly seeks independence and prosperity, the first step must be abandoning the ideology of destruction and embracing peaceful coexistence.

Playing the victim while actively sustaining hostility undermines any claim to moral high ground. As long as the idea of eliminating Israel remains central to their platform, Israel will remain justified in taking countermeasures to protect its citizens. Peace cannot begin until both sides recognize each other’s right to exist—and act accordingly.

@Flotilla @Asfandyar Bhittani @Dalit
 
The ideology of the United States is so divided,Why did the shooter need to kill him? Did he do something?
 

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