Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

That sounds like playing victim as always for some.

The situation you mentioned above reflects the consequences of long-standing ideological choices and confrontational approaches.

If Palestinian leadership were to prioritize peace, regional cooperation, and mutual development—rather than hostility and threats toward their more powerful neighbor - it could open the path to lasting independence and economic progress. By fostering trust and ensuring their neighbor can live free from fear, Palestinians themselves could benefit from stability, sovereignty, and shared prosperity.

So long as Palestinian choose a path that perpetuates conflict and denies their neighbor the same sense of security and independence, full freedom will remain out of reach.
Which path of peace when israeli closed their entire Gaza Strip like a fortress??.

Not only they closed Gaza like a cage.
They also forbbiden concrete importation (just to keep them basically without constructive capability). Also Israel disconnected Gaza from fresh wáter grid (fortunately Egypt and other countries paid them desalinization plants). And finally they disconnected from electricity grid also.

All this shit was well before 7 October.

From 7 October to right now 1000 civilians have been murdered also in West Bank. Houses raided and destroyed. Even the cameraman of the last Óscar have been killed by settlers.!!!! They're expelling people, building new settlements and also closing them in cages. Whenever a illuminated fanatic group appears and make another killing spree this time in West Bank It will be also a Israelí responsability. It was a place virtually free of Hamás personnel.

So, let me tell you again. When militiamen are fighting in occupied territories they're not terrorists, they're Resistance. Like french Resistance killing women and civilians cooperative with nazis. The same.
 
Had a very decent dialogue with @j_hungary I respect his view as he was right on many of his arguments. But he was a gentleman!

Again, there was no disrespect in my post. If there was then quote it here.

I was a leftist myself 30 years ago as a young man and I know how looney toons like to poke and prod for reaction! because the left looses its mind over armed citizens.

I didn't watch movies alone, many people watch movies and it has an impact on the psyche. But I have been fortunate enough to meet refugees escaping war zones where they were at the end of of a barrel! as I already motioned I friended guys who escaped the collapse of Yugoslavia!!
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You keep presenting one third of the picture while ignoring the rest. First, you are ignoring the unavoidable cost; exponentially increased gang violence, school shootings, road rage shootings, mistaken shootings, common dispute shooting, domestic shootings, and police shootings by jumpy officers. This will happen. We know this for a fact from countries that have gone through regulation.

Then the efficacy of your proposal does not hold. You have no idea if, when, or who will runover your military. Do you really see the UK being overrun in your lifetime, or Pakistan? If it does happen, how do you see yourself with a household weapon and tactical gear from TEMU faring against a military that was able to completely overrun one of the most powerful militaries out there?

Juxtapose the two. Are the lives of your innocent countrymen, that will most certainly be lost, and the safety of your kids in peace time an acceptable price to pay for your fantasy of resistance that will not produce, against a capitulation that will not happen, in an invasion that is not happening?

If such a scenario does occur, if give the chance, we would both probably escape for the sake of our families, if not ourselves, just as your Yugoslavian friends did. If any resistance does materialize, it won't be off your 9mm.

Do you think the Palestinians in Gaza and Wes Bank who face dickheads from the arse end of Russia taking over the homes of Palestinians under some false pretence and they are armed by mofos like smotrich and ben gavir. The Palestinians are unarmed 100%

How would it go if the Palestinians could at least match them on some levels. You think a pair of kunts coming from Poland would be up for driving people out of their homes willingly? NO. world has witnessed how cowardly these zionist are.

You will ofcourse counter argue with something like; take it up the arse and go be a refugee!

How would the Palestinian civilians match them? Every neighborhood have a communal stock of tanks and aircraft? The Palestinians are armed more than any civilian can hope to be. They've been stocked with rocket-artillery and anti-tank weapons. How is it going for them? What are you going to do with your civilian weapon? Your only hope is your military.

If I "taking it up the arse" in a fantasy that will never come to pass guarantees that my kids and fellow countrymen live markedly safer and happier lives today then sign me up.
 
Kash Patel would be allowed to enter Valhalla. He served the white cause extremely well.


The non-whites who serve, worship and pay homage to the white race ALWAYS end up being destroyed, humiliated and thrown to the wayside by the goreh. The white race NEVER respects ANYONE who sucks up to them. Their psychology is COMPLETELY different to non-whites.
 
Reading last several posts. How does any of this relate to the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

FWIW, after a conversation with a couple Marine buddies and a couple Army buds, am starting to have a different opinion on this. Things aren't as they appear.
 
Again, there was no disrespect in my post. If there was then quote it here.
The disrespect stems from that I have formed views by watching movies and my grasp on the real world is limited so on forth. Its a common form of neg. But you will downplay it so do that in your reply.

You keep presenting one third of the picture while ignoring the rest. First, you are ignoring the unavoidable cost; exponentially increased gang violence, school shootings, road rage shootings, mistaken shootings, common dispute shooting, domestic shootings, and police shootings by jumpy officers. This will happen. We know this for a fact from countries that have gone through regulation.
I am for people having access to firearms.
you are not because a myriad of reasons.

your view has been shaped by what's happened in the news, okay.
I am now repeatedly saying that I am for 'responsible citizens'!

Is every gun owner a homicidal maniac?
No, There is no such findings. We can presume that majority are responsible armed citizens

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Then the efficacy of your proposal does not hold. You have no idea if, when, or who will runover your military. Do you really see the UK being overrun in your lifetime, or Pakistan? If it does happen, how do you see yourself with a household weapon and tactical gear from TEMU faring against a military that was able to completely overrun one of the most powerful militaries out there?

Juxtapose the two. Are the lives of your innocent countrymen, that will most certainly be lost, and the safety of your kids in peace time an acceptable price to pay for your fantasy of resistance that will not produce, against a capitulation that will not happen, in an invasion that is not happening?

If Canada collapses and lets say Russian Military is in Ottawa, total collapse. You are very lucky. In the UK you'll be f#ckd. In Canada you have vast territory.
If your fellow Canadians decide not be under the thumb of a foreign power and resist!
Its not a fantasy its your right to self determination and resist occupation. You have the right to do so! Just like in the UK people will resist in any manner they can.

The choice to resist will be down to individuals or down to partisans, But you have the right to it.
Are you going to go against your fellow countrymen? because your views are on contrary to them? Would to grass on them for example?

There will definitely be losses, but its not good enough excuse?
All conflicts have losses! Its not a decent enough reason to sit idle. if you comply to the occupation, you are a collaborator.

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If such a scenario does occur, if give the chance, we would both probably escape for the sake of our families, if not ourselves, just as your Yugoslavian friends did. If any resistance does materialize, it won't be off your 9mm.

My Yugoslavian friend left after it was over, after hostilities were reduced but at the cost of loosing many of his relatives, his village was wiped clean, according to him! What message would you give him?

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My Iraqi Friends who I have known for almost 20 years, came to the UK after 2003 invasion. They are my barbers and I have got to know them well. years ago they were telling me how some of their relatives became refugees twice! after 2003 invasion they went to Syria and in Syria. If you followed the news you know what happened.

Their migration to Syria only to have balkanisation war, isis etc appeared. according to my Iraqi friends the situation for his relatives in Syria was the worst. you were at the mercy of all sorts of dick heads.

If they could have shouldn't they have resisted? either die of hunger or put up a front.

Do you think people who lived through it, don't wish they were able to do something? I understand you don't want to see anyone resisting! But are you speaking for those who wish they had the means but didn't as well?

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How would the Palestinian civilians match them? Every neighborhood have a communal stock of tanks and aircraft? The Palestinians are armed more than any civilian can hope to be. They've been stocked with rocket-artillery and anti-tank weapons. How is it going for them? What are you going to do with your civilian weapon? Your only hope is your military.

If I "taking it up the arse" in a fantasy that will never come to pass guarantees that my kids and fellow countrymen live markedly safer and happier lives today then sign me up.
Do you think everyone thinks like you? would they allow themselves to be humiliated everyday if they had some form of arms.

Are you a coward? Not an insult, but a genuine question. If you have followed the war against the Palestinians, the little resistance they put up shows how cowardly the israelis are. had they had better means would they have done a little better! Yea.

But you are against people resisting!
 
The disrespect stems from that I have formed views by watching movies and my grasp on the real world is limited so on forth. Its a common form of neg. But you will downplay it so do that in your reply.

I can't relate to naive sensibilities. You're on your own with this one, bud. Ironic how a warrior bar none is unnerved over that statement. At the very least, it shows that you would not be a serious candidate for gun ownership as a responsible civilian.

I am for people having access to firearms.
you are not because a myriad of reasons.

your view has been shaped by what's happened in the news, okay.
I am now repeatedly saying that I am for 'responsible citizens'!

Is every gun owner a homicidal maniac?
No, There is no such findings. We can presume that majority are responsible armed citizens

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Strawman. You have no way of ensuring that a citizen is responsible or that a responsible citizen will always do the responsible thing. Thousands upon thousands of examples out there from gun culture societies such as the US and Pakistan. Look at yourself, you can't handle an online argument with a modicum of dignity or maturity.

If Canada collapses and lets say Russian Military is in Ottawa, total collapse. You are very lucky. In the UK you'll be f#ckd. In Canada you have vast territory.
If your fellow Canadians decide not be under the thumb of a foreign power and resist!
Its not a fantasy its your right to self determination and resist occupation. You have the right to do so! Just like in the UK people will resist in any manner they can.

The choice to resist will be down to individuals or down to partisans, But you have the right to it.
Are you going to go against your fellow countrymen? because your views are on contrary to them? Would to grass on them for example?

There will definitely be losses, but its not good enough excuse?
All conflicts have losses! Its not a decent enough reason to sit idle. if you comply to the occupation, you are a collaborator.

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My Iraqi Friends who I have known for almost 20 years, came to the UK after 2003 invasion. They are my barbers and I have got to know them well. years ago they were telling me how some of their relatives became refugees twice! after 2003 invasion they went to Syria and in Syria. If you followed the news you know what happened.

Their migration to Syria only to have balkanisation war, isis etc appeared. according to my Iraqi friends the situation for his relatives in Syria was the worst. you were at the mercy of all sorts of dick heads.

If they could have shouldn't they have resisted? either die of hunger or put up a front.

Strawman again.......No one asked you not to resist. Your argument to make gun ownership widespread which will undoubtedly lead to hundreds if not thousands of deaths in peace time without any conflict is what I am arguing against. You can resist all you want without sacrificing the lives of innocents for a fantasized future possibility. Please read the posts carefully.

My Yugoslavian friend left after it was over, after hostilities were reduced but at the cost of loosing many of his relatives, his village was wiped clean, according to him! What message would you give him?

I can give him sympathies after confirming that he wasn't involved in the genocide of Bosnians as a civilian with his legal household weapon.

Do you think people who lived through it, don't wish they were able to do something? I understand you don't want to see anyone resisting! But are you speaking for those who wish they had the means but didn't as well?

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And what of the kids killed every year without a war just because a moron had easy access to a gun? What of their parents? Whatever guns the Yugoslavian or Iraqi refugees could have had would not have helped them any better than their toppled militaries.

Do you think everyone thinks like you? would they allow themselves to be humiliated everyday if they had some form of arms.

Are you a coward? Not an insult, but a genuine question.

Again, I can't relate to these naive sensibilities. To me, hypothetically speaking of course, a man sitting safely in his room fantasizing about war, without any understanding of it, willing to forfeit thousands of innocent lives just so that he can pretend to be a warrior online when he cant handle himself in a debate is not only a coward but a dunce as well. We both know he would run with his tail tucked deep between his legs way before he faces any danger.

The guy willing to do whatever it takes to protect his kids and fellow citizens has my respect everyday. Not everyone gets it.

If you have followed the war against the Palestinians, the little resistance they put up shows how cowardly the israelis are. had they had better means would they have done a little better! Yea.

But you are against people resisting!

Yeah, totally....that is what it shows. If only the citizens were armed with tanks and aircraft.

Since I am fairly certain that you are being willfully obtuse, I'll leave you to it.
 
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Has anything been said about who will be the new face of Turnpoint USA which was started by Charlie Kirk ???
 
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Worth watching..
 
Kash Patel would be allowed to enter Valhalla. He served the white cause extremely well.

Odin doesn’t like dark brown people. The moment he sees Patel he’ll throw him in Helheim.
 
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Worth watching..

A lot of youtubers making the Israeli connections and their audience combined comes in millions, USA is bringing bills that if you criticize Israel as Foreigners you can be stripped of your passport, meaning strip of your citizenship via naturalization... This is crazy times we live in.
 
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Man, these Indians are very cringe.
They are Vikings now. True Aryans.

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Even Indians acknowledge how absurd it was to say in such a serious setting.

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