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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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I don't think that he is running this account. it's probably hacked and use by elements to make him anti pakistan. don't fall for it. I still hate his afghan policy but he has done no crime so unlawfully detained by this stupid government.
 
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These boot polishers still do not understand what game is being played with them. Specially the ones in Pakistan who will be in firing line along with their loved ones as a result of this perpetual WOT. Absolute dumb idiots. Feel pity for them.

They have no clue as to why terrorism became almost non existence during IK time and before/After him, its "business as usual".

I remember asking these people back then when WOT was in full swing that we all know its India using Afghan soil to spread terrorism in Pakistan, so why these GHQ lot do not respond to India in kind and fight the fifth gen war on Indian soil, just like Indians were doing to us. PIN DROP SILENCE....

But when you see how these generals have minted millions, most of them parachute in foreign lands the day after their retire. WOT is a money making machine. It "sells" in western capitals, get acceptance for these generals. India is not a "profitable enemy". So when people have been questioning Army leadership response in recent conflict against India, it should be looked with the same angle, these generals do not want to deal with India as it should. They are happy to fight their WOT with some ragtags, and secure their retirement packages, and these idiots who blindly support them, will be left with the egg on their face.

Mark my words, pin it if you like, this WOT never meant to be won or will see the end. It is a way to keep the turds like Asim Muneer and his henchmen in power. Its the same template, create the security issues and rule perpetually, even destroying country's constitution and giving two finger salute to citizen's will, pass the batton to next fat belly who will do the same. Bob is your uncle!

Asim Muneer and his gang is Dajjali tola. Only those who have insight will understand this. Majority who support him just do it in Bugz-e-Imran, not realising what kind of demon they are are aligning themselves with. One can only hope for their mental well being.
 
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You really think IK controls KP from jail ??

LOL! PTI real leadership is all in jail. Shah Memood, Yasmine rashid, etc etc...

He does not support ttp. He is thinking of a long game and people like you won’t get. This has to do with the fact that pak army is really doing what the west wants which is to fragment the Muslim lands and keep pak and Afghanistan fighting’s west does not want unity btw Afghanistan and pak

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Incredible!! But then the Pakistani expats in the West are a special breed!
 
I could say yes because his heating exchange with MQM second tier leadership his still kinda fresh in my memory, one reason because one of my aunt who was MQM supporter used to use words like " Kutta " and " Harami " for Imran Khan for calling Altaf Hussain but later she become PTI supporter lol But there was a general distrust and dislike among the PTI supporters for Urdu speaking people for their support of MQM, I had this conversation on Chai ke dhabby many times while we take a break from Counter Strike Games, PTI supporters often show their mask their hate because they need the urdu speaking vote to win in Karachi.
Yep
Which is ironic because of who Arif Alvi is and is possibly one of the most honest individuals and key to PTI win in 2018 from the sidelines.

There are people with whom you get vibes
Ive sat across from IK and met Alvi sb a few times
IK would lhave the aura of a cult leader and his booming voice and yet the smell of a politician. Never had that feeling other than honest warmth from Alvi Sb.
 
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Incredible!! But then the Pakistani expats in the West are a special breed!
Part of it is core identity - it’s like religion. If I break it for you then you go berserk.
PTI has been associated with Pakistani identity in expats due to admirable efforts by PTI but also because the message resonates with our values which are a combination of western systems(in terms of still seeing some order and justice) combined with wishful ideals of a “Muslim society” in whatever varied definition that exists.

This is what IK or his evangelists promised for Pakistan to folks in the west. Hence the absolution of internal sadness for leaving family or friends to come here because Pakistan is a gutter of a system and the promise of finally being proud of being from the land. Even though it was clear in IKs term that delivery of either was a pipe dream not just because the system is entrenched but also of IKs own fallacies the process of IKs removal and subsequent cruelties of the system erased all memories of his failures with the focus on IK being a core belief system.
 
Part of it is core identity - it’s like religion. If I break it for you then you go berserk.
PTI has been associated with Pakistani identity in expats due to admirable efforts by PTI but also because the message resonates with our values which are a combination of western systems(in terms of still seeing some order and justice) combined with wishful ideals of a “Muslim society” in whatever varied definition that exists.

This is what IK or his evangelists promised for Pakistan to folks in the west. Hence the absolution of internal sadness for leaving family or friends to come here because Pakistan is a gutter of a system and the promise of finally being proud of being from the land. Even though it was clear in IKs term that delivery of either was a pipe dream not just because the system is entrenched but also of IKs own fallacies the process of IKs removal and subsequent cruelties of the system erased all memories of his failures with the focus on IK being a core belief system.

try not to laugh, but
you just described Neo (Keaunu Reeves) from The Matrix!


thankyou, for your attention to this matter!
 
These boot polishers still do not understand what game is being played with them. Specially the ones in Pakistan who will be in firing line along with their loved ones as a result of this perpetual WOT. Absolute dumb idiots. Feel pity for them.

They have no clue as to why terrorism became almost non existence during IK time and before/After him, its "business as usual".

I remember asking these people back then when WOT was in full swing that we all know its India using Afghan soil to spread terrorism in Pakistan, so why these GHQ lot do not respond to India in kind and fight the fifth gen war on Indian soil, just like Indians were doing to us. PIN DROP SILENCE....

But when you see how these generals have minted millions, most of them parachute in foreign lands the day after their retire. WOT is a money making machine. It "sells" in western capitals, get acceptance for these generals. India is not a "profitable enemy". So when people have been questioning Army leadership response in recent conflict against India, it should be looked with the same angle, these generals do not want to deal with India as it should. They are happy to fight their WOT with some ragtags, and secure their retirement packages, and these idiots who blindly support them, will be left with the egg on their face.

Mark my words, pin it if you life, this WOT never meant to be won or will see the end. It is a way to keep the turds like Asim Muneer and his henchmen in power. Its the same template, create the security issues and rule perpetually, even destroying country's constitution and giving two finger salute to citizen's will, pass the batton to next fat belly who will do the same. Bob is your uncle!

Asim Muneer and his gang is Dajjali tola. Only those who have insight will understand this. Majority who support him just do it in Bugz-e-Imran, not realising what kind of demon they are are aligning themselves with. One can only hope for their mental well being.
The people on this forum will never change. Just over 18 months ago the previous version of this forum was forced closed after intelligence and military figures threatened the families of the administration.

Less than 2 years later, the same members are doing this...

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Imran Khan is now their enemy. Not to say that I agree with his foolish position regarding the TTP and the Afghans. Even im behind the dictator in this instance.
 
The people on this forum will never change. Just over 18 months ago the previous version of this forum was forced closed after intelligence and military figures threatened the families of the administration.

Less than 2 years later, the same members are doing this...

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Imran Khan is now their enemy. Not to say that I agree with his foolish position regarding the TTP and the Afghans. Even im behind the dictator in this instance.


really nice JPEG!

strings and hands!
 
The people on this forum will never change. Just over 18 months ago the previous version of this forum was forced closed after intelligence and military figures threatened the families of the administration.

Less than 2 years later, the same members are doing this...

There is nothing wrong with people making informed decisions as they get more information available. In my case, while admittedly I didn't follow Pakistan's domestic politics for a decade starting early 90s, I was an Imran Khan supporter, though I generally don't express my support for politicians very openly. I thought Pakistan was finally in the 'right hands' and I had supported him till the very eve of when his Speaker in the National Assembly threw out the No Confidence Motion in early April 2022; I even had a post in the old PDF in that evening where Imran Khan was interviewed by the anchor Imran Riaz Khan. People are free to look up that interview/my post.
But when he threw out the NCM, I immediately realized the guy is a loose cannon, is too arrogant and too stupid to rule a complex country like Pakistan. And so my PDF posts started to criticize Imran and for that this forum gave me a lot of heartburn but my negative opinion of Imran has only solidified even more since his ouster from power in April 2022!!
Imran's story is tragic: No politician in Pakistan had so much support of the masses, of the Establishment, of the intelligentsia as Imran had come to enjoy especially when the Afghan Taliban took power in August 2021 and no person in entire Pakistan's history has squandered that all in such a short time. It was Imran's mighty ego and his stupid political 'brain' which undid him and continues to do so.
 
No politician in Pakistan had so much support of the masses, of the Establishment, of the intelligentsia as Imran had come to enjoy especially when the Afghan Taliban took power in August 2021 and no person in entire Pakistan's history has squandered that all in such a short time. It was Imran's mighty ego and his stupid political 'brain' which undid him and continues to do so.

Ultimately he had a minority govt (due to rigging) and it was used against him. He wasn't allowed to have the control that his support reflected, because they didn't want him to act independently. The heavy rigging of the recent elections is testament to that.

PTI and Imran Khan is not a solution to all our problems, but he was a choice the public made, and it should be respected for better or for worse.
 
It’s strange that people have such highly emotional views about Imran Khan but they’re okay with the criminal mafias that were installed to replace him.

To remind people: Today Zardari is the President of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. This is the biggest criminal in Pakistan’s history. The Sharif crime family hold the positions of PM of Pakistan and CM of Punjab. These are the people who have been looting and destroying Pakistan for most of its history.

Whether IK was good or bad, it was for the people of Pakistan to decide in elections. Not for some generals, who have no constitutional authority to act like they do.
 
Ultimately he had a minority govt (due to rigging) and it was used against him. He wasn't allowed to have the control that his support reflected, because they didn't want him to act independently. The heavy rigging of the recent elections is testament to that.

PTI and Imran Khan is not a solution to all our problems, but he was a choice the public made, and it should be respected for better or for worse.
It wasn't public choice in the begining , it was establishment choice foisted upon the public.... later on when he turned against the establishment , the public got smitten by his ramblings hook nail and sinker .
 
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