Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Hamas leader, Abdul Rahman Shadeed:

- No one in this world, no matter how powerful, will be able to impose distorted plans on our people and their resistance factions.

- A people whose land and holy sites have been occupied for 77 years will not surrender.

- You may occupy our land with iron and fire and with the support of the forces of injustice in this world, but you will never be able to occupy the will of our people.

- Trump’s plan does not only concern Hamas as a faction but affects our entire people, their factions, their rights, their constants, their political existence, and the future of their cause.

- The response to this plan, which carries many significant dangers to the future of our entire cause, will be a distinctly national response.

- The final response will be determined after the completion of the ongoing consultations with various factions.

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This is creepy and disturbing. These Zionists creeps are pedo protectors and sex offenders.

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Foinikas said:
If you look at it historically,terrorist attacks agitated things further and made it progressively worse for the Palestinians.

Exactly that,that's my point. And it also pushes the other side to more extremist elements. They think "If Arabs want to kill us,f them let the army exterminate them all". That's how this mentality goes on. And I'm not talking about the settlers who are already religious fanatics in their majority,I'm talking about the more moderate members,both secular and religious.
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This is my last reply to you, HOW DOES RESISTING AN OCCUPATION AND THE IMPOSED APERTHEID EQUATES TO TERRORISM?
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This poster @Foinikas is repeatedly equating Palestinian resistance groups ( not only Hamas) as terrorists. Maybe the Hamas actions on Oct 7 could be argued as premature and ill planned but making a blanket statement like the bold part of his opening sentence is pure Fake Information / statement whereby he is implying that the occupation is justified by the israeli pigs. My humble request is to issue a thread ban not only to @Foinikas but anybody else who tries to even suggest that any action taken by any Palestinians or any other nationality against any israeli person, group or entity as terrorism. by their actions israelis and their backers have proven beyond any doubt that they are the lowest, filthiest scum of the earth and should never be treated as humans.
 
Lets be honest, no one can do anything for Gaza as long as US don't put its foot down, even European powers are powerless to go against the USA, which is standing between any action to stop Genocide and Israel.
 
Foinikas

I am disappointed by your conduct here today. All you needed to do was be the bigger person and walk away from the thread. Instead you kept poking and prodding members and despite me politely asking you to stop - and issuing you a soft warning you continued.

I disagree with Hamas, and Hamas is a lot of things but first and foremost they are Palestinians. You DO NOT get to decide who to label a terrorist and who to label a freedom fighter especially since the people of that land are facing genocide and ethnic cleansing for eight decades. Get your head checked bro!

Sadly, and we as Muslims must accept that due to the weak knees of our leaders, who are largely cowards and complicit in this continued cycle of human depravity - Israel has been emboldened to hold the entire Middle East hostage - bombing multiple countries and attacking peaceful vessels in international waters.

Had Muslim and Arab leaders a spine, all they needed to do was ask their entire population to stand on the border of Israel and urinate and that little spec of sand would drown in a river of piss.

It is lamentable that we are cursed with such slack jaw and spineless "leaders" which then enables people to come and lecture us and tell us what is "right" and what is "wrong".

Diplomacy has failed, talks have failed, appeasement has failed. So what now?

October 7 did not happen in a vacuum.

Please take your break from the forum to reflect on your actions in this thread.

@marj786 bro I asked you as well to please stop- kindly can you respect requests from mods to stop derailment of threads in future.
 
RescueRanger said:
Foinikas

I am disappointed by your conduct here today. All you needed to do was be the bigger person and walk away from the thread. Instead you kept poking and prodding members and despite me politely asking you to stop - and issuing you a soft warning you continued.

I disagree with Hamas, and Hamas is a lot of things but first and foremost they are Palestinians. You DO NOT get to decide who to label a terrorist and who to label a freedom fighter especially since the people of that land are facing genocide and ethnic cleansing for eight decades. Get your head checked bro!

Sadly, and we as Muslims must accept that due to the weak knees of our leaders, who are largely cowards and complicit in this continued cycle of human depravity - Israel has been emboldened to hold the entire Middle East hostage - bombing multiple countries and attacking peaceful vessels in international waters.

Had Muslim and Arab leaders a spine, all they needed to do was ask their entire population to stand on the border of Israel and urinate and that little spec of sand would drown in a river of piss.

It is lamentable that we are cursed with such slack jaw and spineless "leaders" which then enables people to come and lecture us and tell us what is "right" and what is "wrong".

Diplomacy has failed, talks have failed, appeasement has failed. So what now?

October 7 did not happen in a vacuum.

Please take your break from the forum to reflect on your actions in this thread.

@marj786 bro I asked you as well to please stop- kindly can you respect requests from mods to stop derailment of threads in future.
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Sure thing brother
I didn't read the room correctly
 

Freedom Flotillas: A history of attempts to break Israel’s siege of Gaza​

Several Freedom Flotilla vessels since 2008 have attempted to break the blockade of Gaza, which was imposed by Israel since 2007, maintaining strict control over Gaza’s airspace and territorial waters, while restricting the movement of goods and people in and out of the enclave.

Here is a list of attempts by different flotillas over the past 18 years to break the siege:

  • In 2008, two boats from the Free Gaza Movement successfully reached Gaza, marking the first break of Israel’s naval blockade.
  • Israeli commandos in 2010 raided the Mavi Marmara in international waters. The assault killed 10 activists and injured dozens, leading to global outrage. The ship was carrying humanitarian aid and more than 600 passengers.
  • Freedom Flotilla II was launched in 2011 as a follow-up to the 2010 mission. However, intense diplomatic pressure from Israel, coupled with reported sabotage of ships and restrictions by host countries like Greece, prevented most boats from departing.
  • In 2015, Freedom Flotilla III was launched as the third major attempt by international activists to break Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza, organised by the FFC. Israeli naval forces intercepted the Marianne about 100 nautical miles (185km) off the Gaza coast, in international waters. Commandos boarded the ship and diverted it to Ashdod.
  • The 2018 Gaza Freedom Flotilla – was part of a continued effort by the FFC to challenge Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza. The campaign included two main vessels, Al Awda (The Return) and Freedom, both of which were intercepted and seized by the Israeli navy in international waters.
  • In May, the Conscience was struck twice by armed drones, just 14 nautical miles (26km) off the coast of Malta. The attack triggered a fire and caused a significant breach in the hull, forcing the 30 Turkish and Azeri activists on board into a desperate effort to bail out water and keep the ship afloat.
You can read more on the Gaza flotillas here.
 
RescueRanger said:
Foinikas

I am disappointed by your conduct here today. All you needed to do was be the bigger person and walk away from the thread. Instead you kept poking and prodding members and despite me politely asking you to stop - and issuing you a soft warning you continued.

I disagree with Hamas, and Hamas is a lot of things but first and foremost they are Palestinians. You DO NOT get to decide who to label a terrorist and who to label a freedom fighter especially since the people of that land are facing genocide and ethnic cleansing for eight decades. Get your head checked bro!

Sadly, and we as Muslims must accept that due to the weak knees of our leaders, who are largely cowards and complicit in this continued cycle of human depravity - Israel has been emboldened to hold the entire Middle East hostage - bombing multiple countries and attacking peaceful vessels in international waters.

Had Muslim and Arab leaders a spine, all they needed to do was ask their entire population to stand on the border of Israel and urinate and that little spec of sand would drown in a river of piss.

It is lamentable that we are cursed with such slack jaw and spineless "leaders" which then enables people to come and lecture us and tell us what is "right" and what is "wrong".

Diplomacy has failed, talks have failed, appeasement has failed. So what now?

October 7 did not happen in a vacuum.

Please take your break from the forum to reflect on your actions in this thread.

@marj786 bro I asked you as well to please stop- kindly can you respect requests from mods to stop derailment of threads in future.
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I don't know how much spirtual you are but I believe we will keep falling until all the Muslims are in a constant threat of death like gazans only then maybe we get the help we are promised i.e until we are about to be finished only then maybe Mahdi appears .
It's just a thought like the other day I was thinking we are so week mentally and military and our true enemy and its allies are the exact opposite most powerful army to ever exist .
They are only so much powerful because we are so far away from Allah.
We are falling in an abyss and until we all call Him we will keep falling and the enemy will keep getting stronger.
Its mind bending what the first generation of Muslims achieved it was adequately compared to modern days inuits conquering America of today.

But then someone comes and tries to tarnish the best of us , it just doesn't sit right with me to let him have a field day.
 
marj786 said:
I don't know how much spirtual you are but I believe we will keep falling until all the Muslims are in a constant threat of death like gazans only then maybe we get the help we are promised i.e until we are about to be finished only then maybe Mahdi appears .
It's just a thought like the other day I was thinking we are so week mentally and military and our true enemy and its allies are the exact opposite most powerful army to ever exist .
They are only so much powerful because we are so far away from Allah.
We are falling in an abyss and until we all call Him we will keep falling and the enemy will keep getting stronger.
Its mind bending what the first generation of Muslims achieved it was adequately compared to modern days inuits conquering America of today.

But then someone comes and tries to tarnish the best of us , it just doesn't sit right with me to let him have a field day.
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My dear brother, we have a report feature on this website for this reason. I fully understand that as Muslims we are very upset about the situation in Gaza because we have a spiritual and cultural affinity with those people.

Just like Europe had a cultural connection with the people of Ukraine during their war (but history quickly forgets) and I don't want to take this O/T with one of my grand-dad rants.

Now, there will always be people you disagree with. If someone says something you disagree with and you know it is not benefiting the debate - just ignore it and then that post will just not get the traction that the poster wants it to get. By replying and rebuking you just give the post traction and enter a mindless feedback loop.

If a post is offensive - report it - also please don't engage in personal attacks or insults because it doesn't add to the debate either. As Muslims we first and foremost place our faith in god for he is the best of all planners. And Allah (SWT) has provided us with a clear proof and evidence about the outcome of oppressors in Surah Al-Fil.

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