Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

The SC said:
The war is over.. The displaced returned to their destroyed homes in Gaza City

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Honestly I think we are going to have to wait a few weeks to see what happens we have seen Israel go back on “agreements” not being negative just a realist
 
tower9 said:
Loser of war? What do you think Gaza is? Hamas is basically destroyed. Gaza doesn’t have one building left. A quarter of its population is under rubble. That’s a victory?
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When 53 (US+UK+Germany) states couldn't make civilian prisoners surrender after throwing everything at them except nukes, that's more than a defeat that is ugly humiliation of the worst kind, the kind that should make you drown in shame. But then the US and the West are shameless must be to support and encourage genocide, when American and British values get used like toilet paper and when the world spits at the Nazis at every platform.
 
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Khansaheeb said:
When 53 (US+UK+Germany) states couldn't make civilian prisoners surrender after throwing everything at them except nukes, that's more than a defeat that is ugly humiliation of the worst kind, the kind that should make you drown in shame. But then the US and the West are shameless must be to support and encourage genocide, when American and British values get used like toilet paper and when the world spits at the Nazis at every platform.
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@tower9

This ....
 
_Arabia_ said:
I think that the entire world needs to boycott Israel completely if it turns out that this peace deal is a hoax only intended to get their hostages out
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Lol... You actually believe the Zionists...

Of course they will resume.... And the world including the pathetic Muslim countries will do nothing except for building stupid useless Neom and All Burj
 
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_Arabia_ said:
I understand your pessimism fully and I myself am not overly optimistic but I have seen tangible changes among the Westerners in regards to how they view Israel, most importantly within the US itself. This cannot be underestimated. Similarly politically within Western European states (those that matter) where Arab and Muslim communities have been very active in protesting/putting pressure and focus on the Palestinian issue and the war crimes of Israel. Who would have thought just a few years ago that so many countries would be recognizing Palestine?

I think that there is definitely an awakening globally among even conservative Westerners who cannot any longer make excuses for the inexcusable.

You also agree with what I have always been saying, namely that Israel is just an extension of the US. Without the US they would not last very long let alone doing what they have been doing for the past many decades and in particular the past 2 years.

If opinion polls in the US are changing this much in disfavor of Israel and this amounts to concrete changes on the ground (different US foreign policy and how they approach Israel) they will have to make compromises and the Palestinian position will gain in strength.
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Yes, I’ve mentioned the younger generation being vehemently pro Palestinian. Even among evangelical Christian’s who are hardline supporters of Israel, the younger generation is starting to break a little in being pro Palestinian. It’s a small number now but cracks are emerging.
_Arabia_ said:
As for a two-state solution or one-state solution, as I wrote earlier, Zomlot mentioned that most Palestinian academics, political leaders pre-1967 were in favor of 1 state with equal rights and a right of return. Either way you look at it, if this horrible genocide in Gaza could not succeed in chasing/throwing Gazans out of Gaza, how likely do you think it will be for the Zionists to remove 7-8 million Palestinians from Palestine/Israel proper? No neighboring Arab state will accept this or take those Palestinians willingly. Millions of Palestinians already are living in Lebanon, Jordan, KSA and Egypt next door. So I consider it unrealistic if not outright impossible. Same with the nonsense of this "Greater Israel". They don't have the power or population to even inhabit such a large region and locals will never accept it.
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Palestinians are going nowhere, it is all a waiting game. Main thing, there is no restart of genocide in Gaza. The world must not let that happen and are going to have to start enforcing redlines.
_Arabia_ said:
Anyway what do you think will happen in 1 years time? Will we finally see all warring Palestinian factions uniting for the goal of establishing/working towards a Palestinian state?

Also don't you believe that the likes of Abbas should have stepped down long ago? I honestly don't know what his achievements have been in the past 20 years if any. Hamas, whatever you might think of them, have actually tried to do something to change status quo militarily. Not to mention that Gaza has been cut off (largely) from the world for the past 20 years given the illegal blockade.
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Palestinians are united in the goal of the establishing a Palestinian state.

You have two sides
1. A side that wants a violent resistance because they don’t see any progress in the failed peaceful negotiations.

2. The other side that opposes violent resistance but has so far failed to deliver.

Oslo was signed and arms were given up but Israel only used the Palestinian Authority as a tool to stop any resistance and enrich themselves in the West Bank.

Israel does not want peace and you can see that by the illegal settlements that have dissected the West Bank like Swiss cheese to make it impossible to make a 2 state. All towns and villages are surrounded by roadblocks and split from each other.

Giving up their weapons was a huge mistake without a guaranteed Palestinian state. It left the Palestinians defenseless and used the Palestinian authority to stop any resistance. The PA are nothing but a police force for the Palestinians. They can’t even stop illegal settlers from attacking or burning Palestinian homes. They are a worthless bunch.

No one supports Abbas, the only
people who are loyal to him are the people on his payroll. Hamas swept the elections in Gaza in 2006 and fearing the same in West Bank they have not allowed elections.

Hamas brought Palestine on the map but the people of Gaza paid a heavy price. It is time now for the Muslim world to take advantage and put the necessary pressure to make a Palestinian state.
 
Mobius said:
Never ever trust a Zionist.....

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Palestinians and Muslims need to hope for the best and plan for the worst.
 
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This m0therfcuker, crooked war criminal should be kept away from Gaza. He's not wanted there. Fcuk off!

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