Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[KingQamaR]

I don't understand why the war is going on.

 

[_Arabia_]

I don't understand why the war is going on.

It is normal after 50 + years of incompetent and brutal Al-Assad regime rule, 12 + years of brutal civil war, for there to be a power vacuum in a country the size of Syria and considering the geography of it. As well as outside meddling within the country.

Basically the current "conflict" (low-intensity for now) boils down to 3 main topics.

SDF (read about them) controlled part of Syria in the east, Al-Assad/Nusayri loyalists trying to cause trouble in Tartus and vicinity (coastal Nusayri strongholds), and finally Zionist opportunism/land grab in the south. That is to make it very simplistic but those are the 3 main challenges and "hotspots" within Syria currently.

Rest are internal governance and what you would expect from a country undergoing what Syria has went through and trying to stabilize and get back on its feet.

Not to mention existing internal divisions within Syria (as in any other country).

Of course there is also the question of millions of Syrians returning etc. and elementary questions such as energy, housing, security, landmines/bomb removal and in general trying to make Syria resemble a stable country again.

Many challenges ahead and it will naturally not happen overnight. However Damascus is slowly resembling its old self. I had a relative visit recently and he told us that there is light ahead of the tunnel and that many areas resemble what they knew pre-war.

Anyway it would be best to ask those questions to actual Syrians living within Syria, they should be able to give you the most accurate description of the situation.

 

[Watandar]

I don't understand why the war is going on.

Israelis are taking advantage of a weak govt and shattered society in the aftermath of the long Syrian civil war to make another landgrab. They had previously seized the Golan from Syria in 1967 and settled it as a buffer zone. Later they annexed the Golan Heights. Now they have seized more land adjacent to the Golan as another buffer zone. Israeli ministers also talk about a long term plan to fragment Syria into smaller states. They especially want to carve out a Druze led state next to Israel.

In addition to that you have a complex situation inside Syria itself with various militias eg Kurds still controlling territory and lot of bad blood and tensions between different groups.

 

[Shags101]

Israelis are taking advantage of a weak govt and shattered society in the aftermath of the long Syrian civil war to make another landgrab. They had previously seized the Golan from Syria in 1967 and settled it as a buffer zone. Later they annexed the Golan Heights. Now they have seized more land adjacent to the Golan as another buffer zone. Israeli ministers also talk about a long term plan to fragment Syria into smaller states. They especially want to carve out a Druze led state next to Israel.

In addition to that you have a complex situation inside Syria itself with various militias eg Kurds still controlling territory and lot of bad blood and tensions between different groups.

To be fair I’m really trying to give jolani the benefit of the doubt I know I rag on the guy honestly I would have so much respect and admiration for this guy if he said hey guys it was really fun being president for past couple of years but I’m going to step down next year let’s all come together as one hold free fair elections as one united Syria no matter what sect or or ideological base are from we are Syrian and we want the best for Syria.
Who cares whose the president of Syria as long as they care for the people and want a strong undivided Syria

 

[KingQamaR]

Since Russia and Iran lost their influence in Syria definitely it’s US & Israel the one who won.

 

[KingQamaR]

Syrian future is bleak going to be partition .

 

[_Arabia_]

Since Russia and Iran lost their influence in Syria definitely it’s US & Israel the one who won.

No, mostly KSA and Turkey in terms of regional countries. Most importantly the Syrian people won and the majority of the Syrians (Syrian Sunni Arabs) if we want to make it "sectarian". The Al-Assad regime was always completely unrepresentative as Nusayris make up 5-7.5% of the population and it was only kept alive by the sheer enormous scale of brutality and oppression and fake outwardly Arab Ba'ath nationalist rhetoric and powerful and corrupt Sunni Arab families in Damascus, Aleppo and other main cities supporting and benefitting from the regime. It quickly collapsed once its foreign backers could no longer keep it artificially alive.

Israel did not win anything other than opportunistic land grab. Since 1967 (when the Al-Assad regime lost the Golan Heights to the Zionists), Syria was never a military threat to Israel and they bombed it at will.

Syrians (people) are not going to accept Israel unless they stop their psychotic behavior and accept a genuine two-state solution at the minimum.

No sane Arab trusts the Zionists given history and their behavior. The Arab countries that have recognized Israel on paper or signed peace deals with them (Egypt and Jordan) do not automatically love or like them. There is still dislike/hatred and distrust at best by the average people. All due to Zionist actions.

US is far more preferable in Syria than the criminal Russians who were carpet bombing Syrians and Muslims of Syria for 10 + years. At least the Americans are not doing that so I guess it is easy for Syrians to decide which party they prefer. The US are killing ISIS members/leaders, so another positive in this regard. Obviously the Syrians (state) will do that themselves (as they should) in the future once they get back on their feet.

 

[_Arabia_]

Syrian future is bleak going to be partition .

I don't believe that at all. The SDF-controlled area of Syria is majority Arab to this day (future demographics will only accelerate that) and Kurds have no chance of any country when Iraq and Turkey (just next door) are opposing it. Not to mention that there are no more than 1.5-2 million Kurds in Syria. How are they going to create a viable country when they are outnumbered by Syrian Arabs, Assyrians and Turkmens in the Kurdish-inhabited parts of Syria? It is unrealistic.

Any way they have been given a proposal of autonomy (very fair proposal), no such thing in Turkey or Iran for them. Only in Iraq (Arab country) and now Syria (another Arab country) can Kurds potentially enjoy such a thing.

Same story with the Druze (Arab people - just having a different - largely strange religion much like the Nusayris), most Syrian Druze do not want to and cannot (realistically) have their own country when they are heavily outnumbered. Unless they commit ethnic cleansing that is.

At most some corrupt Druze Sheikhs can aspire to create a tiny Sheikhdom in As-Suwayda under Zionist protection. Hardly realistic long-term either.

The chance to truly divide Syria was a few years ago.

From what I hear from US officials, they are also against any partition of Syria (all main regional countries will be against such a move) but with the destructive Zionist influence, nothing can be taken for granted in this regard. The Zionists are no doubt working towards fragmentation in the Arab and Muslim World.

 

[battalion25]

Syrian future is bleak going to be partition .

Syria got partitioned during Assad era but won´t work during Sharaa´s era as nobody would be able to partitioning them as it is only a pipe dream.

Syria was effectively partition when Russia and iran were there but it won´t work with Sharaa in Damascus even Israel wants cut deal with damascus and everybody knows it is not gonna happen.

 

[Solomon2]

International inquiry commission ends first visit to Syria's Suweida after sectarian violence

Druze in al-Sweida: We no longer see ourselves as part of Syria

Syria shares results of parliamentary election amid inclusivity concerns

Heavy fighting bursts in Syria between government forces, Druze armed faction

 

[ResurgentIran2]

International inquiry commission ends first visit to Syria's Suweida after sectarian violence

Druze in al-Sweida: We no longer see ourselves as part of Syria

Syria shares results of parliamentary election amid inclusivity concerns

Heavy fighting bursts in Syria between government forces, Druze armed faction

You dumb little Zionist dimwit. No one is buying into your fake propaganda and narrative.
If you knew anything about the history of Syria, you'd know that struggle against colonialism typically originated from the druze in southern Syria.
Keep digging your hole.

 

[battalion25]

You dumb little Zionist dimwit. No one is buying into your fake propaganda and narrative.
If you knew anything about the history of Syria, you'd know that struggle against colonialism typically originated from the druze in southern Syria.
Keep digging your hole.

The druze are part of syria and will remain so

 

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Shown for the first time...in the late 2021 night, and from within the (×) unit deployed in the Damascus countryside, a recording appeared documenting the moments of engagement of the "Pantsir-S1" air defense vehicle crew with an Israeli air raid that was carried out in three consecutive waves from the south, west, and southwest.

The vehicle, which was equipped with only eight missiles, successfully countered the first wave and downed all targets before facing the second wave that directly targeted it.

Despite the crew's success in destroying two consecutive targets, the last projectiles hit the vehicle and completely destroyed it.

The footage showed the last moments of engagement amidst crew calls and operational warnings, ending with the vehicle being targeted and its crew surviving with severe injuries.

 

[Solomon2]

...No one is buying into your fake propaganda and narrative -

Can you be specific as to the news source you're insulting? Was it the Chinese one? Or maybe al-Jazeera?

 

[Shags101]

Can you be specific as to the news source you're insulting? Was it the Chinese one? Or maybe al-Jazeera?

I have you on ignore I just like to see what your truth are and may not be a fan of jolani I’m definitely not a fan of people who aren’t innocent at all their people may be but not the instigators of this violence they started a fight and cried wolf how the other side started it and I may cringe on how other people speak I’m going to have to on you seriously .

it’s really big shame I honestly can’t believe your Pakistani it’s really an insult it doesn’t matter if your Muslim Christian Jewish or Buddhist you feign compassion but have no real compassion for 10s of thousands of known innocent civilians that Israel openly states it will kill if anyone dares fight back I at least have spoken out against innocents Brit it in Israel Palestine Iran Lebanon or whatever else innocent people are killed you on the other hand pretend to have higher moral compass but you lack in being genuine if tomorrow the Israelis found the Druze their enemies you would be speaking the evils of Druze