Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

I agree with Sir, he is our senior.

@Cash gk bahi lets take this discussion to US defence thread please.

Thanks gents

 

[Anatolia]

A lot of folks from western origin on YouTube channel is trying to build an opinion (through reverse psychology) for Iran to get directly in conflict with its neighbors. That would be a death knell for all the countries concerned in the region. Don't trust these false sympathies. It is to drive a wedge so that grounds are prepared to compromise and weaken the entire region to continue to exert control.

If people think that GCC countries have an option to ask western basis to be vacated then only God can help you as you lack common sense.

Don't trust your adversaries narratives. Your direct adversary is Israel focus on fighting them.

There's nothing much the GULF can do about US. Agreed.
But, why won't Pakistan help Iran? Whats stopping Pakistan from helping the Iranians when they need you the most.
You're all the same people and yet still refuse to help each other.

 

[Cash gk]

I agree with Sir, he is our senior.

@Cash gk bahi lets take this discussion to US defence thread please.

Agree I think last night. Iranian aggression got cool down. I should sleep

 

[clutch]

Beautiful!... This is what I want to see more of In the land of the Zionists

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[Falcon29]

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[Shakehands]

Imagine they declare an alliance, then subsequently declare war on Israel

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I wish but I don’t think so, probably maybe to settle down some dust between gcc and Iran.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Navid09]

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ppl keep reposting this one, seen it like last week as well. its either from early war or from tp2-3

 

[codeforfood]

There's nothing much the GULF can do about US. Agreed.
But, why won't Pakistan help Iran? Whats stopping Pakistan from helping the Iranians when they need you the most.
You're all the same people and yet still refuse to help each other.

I am not sure. But I think they are trying to not be 'directly' involved and diffuse the situation. But who knows what is happening behind the scenes.

 

[Tamerlane]

There's nothing much the GULF can do about US. Agreed.
But, why won't Pakistan help Iran? Whats stopping Pakistan from helping the Iranians when they need you the most.
You're all the same people and yet still refuse to help each other.

Almost all of Pakistan’s interests are actually tied to the US and the GCC, so for Pakistan to even remain neutral is a big thing.

Most of Pakistan’s elites already live in the West (US, UK, Canada etc.) or aspire to move there. The middle classes live or aspire to move to the GCC. Pakistan’s exports are linked to these countries and so are its energy imports. About 5 million Pakistanis live in the GCC and their remittances are critical to avoid default since imports are far more than exports. Plus, there is the religious connection with Saudi Islam.

In contrast, Pakistan’s contact with Iran is mainly Shias going there for pilgrimage. Pakistan’s official relations with Iran were much better during the days of the Shah. Since the Islamic revolution the two countries turned away from each other.

Still, Pakistan’s cultural heritage is Persianate. Historically, Persian was the official language of the Muslim rule over Hindustan. The bulk of vocabulary of Urdu consists of Persian. Also, people in Pakistan absolutely hate Israel and love it that Iran is bashing the hell out of them.

Pakistan is torn between its self interests, which are with the Arabs and historic connection with Persia.

 

[hasn2009]

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[RescueRanger]

I finally tracked down the origin of the mysterious Persian numbers station.



Coordinates: 48.6904682, 9.0864427. This land on German OS maps comes up as: Standortübungsplatz ( which google translate tells me means training area).


The land is leased to the US military by the German Government:


Interestingly it is located 30KM for Stuttgard Airfield which is home to

the US Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR), based at Patch Barracks in Stuttgart, Germany, directs elite units, including the 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne) and Naval Special Warfare Unit 2 (NSWU-2).

So the strange persian numbers station is indeed an adverserial operation against Iran likely directed at agents or assets inside Iran.

 

[Psyko70]

I finally tracked down the origin of the mysterious Persian numbers station.

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Coordinates: 48.6904682, 9.0864427. This land on German OS maps comes up as: Standortübungsplatz ( which google translate tells me means training area).

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The land is leased to the US military by the German Government:
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Interestingly it is located 30KM for Stuttgard Airfield which is home to
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the US Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR), based at Patch Barracks in Stuttgart, Germany, directs elite units, including the 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne) and Naval Special Warfare Unit 2 (NSWU-2).
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So the strange persian numbers station is indeed an adverserial operation against Iran likely directed at agents or assets inside Iran.

What if Americans are thinking about this and saying IRAN is upto something ?

 

[codeforfood]

They made sure Muslim countries first fight with each other and burned themselves and when they get week then they will extend their borders but their plan is messed up. They gambled. And now their own security is under threat
They Underestimated Iranian desire to die.

This is most fascinating time in modern history.
Every enthusiastic student of military and international politics must update their notebooks..

This Iranian desire to die is a bit concerning as well. These leaders showing bravado in the name of eeman and bravery needs to understand that even though they can maintain a command structure (commendable) but you still lose experienced seasoned leaders and you can't just continue to replace them. They have a responsibility to their nation so they should be careful and responsible. My two cents anyways
(not that it is my direct concern, but considering that this is an unjust war).

 

[hasn2009]

100% agreed, no condemnation, no pressure to stop the strikes or from using the airspace:

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